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View Poll Results: Is Welfare socialism?
Yes. 43 67.19%
No. 14 21.88%
None of the above. 7 10.94%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-18-2008, 06:59 PM
 
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Just want to know what people think about it?
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I think the original intention of welfare was to give people in a pinch, a way to get by until something better came along for them to get back on their feet.

It really disturbs me how welfare has been turned into an "income source" like a "career" for people year after year, generation after generation.

In that regard, I think it is socialism.

America has made it too easy for people not to work, to sit on their duffs and collect money from the "state".
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:08 PM
 
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I think the original intention of welfare was to give people in a pinch, a way to get by until something better came along for them to get back on their feet.

It really disturbs me how welfare has been turned into an "income source" like a "career" for people year after year, generation after generation.

In that regard, I think it is socialism.

America has made it too easy for people not to work, to sit on their duffs and collect money from the "state".
You say is socialism but voted No?
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Just want to know what people think about it?

One of the great perversions of society; it's in the same league as the tax code.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Welfare is welfare. Socialism is socialism. Do you have a dictionary?
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:05 PM
 
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Welfare is welfare. Socialism is socialism. Do you have a dictionary?
Ok, so in your dictionary, doesnt talk about wealth distribution?
And how is welfare not wealth distribution?
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Welfare is welfare. Socialism is socialism. Do you have a dictionary?
Correct.

Welfare is used in socialist countries but that does not make welfare itself socialist.

The logic displayed is this:
1) Socialist countries have welfare systems
2) The United States has a welfare system
3) The United States is a socialist country

Using the same logic as above we could do this:
1) Fascist countries have flags
2) The United States has a flag
3) The United States is a fascist country

And this:
1) Terrorists use computers
2) cjma79 uses a computer
3) cjma79 is a terrorist

It's called a non sequitur argument. I could go on and on.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:13 PM
 
Location: southern california
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no its not. but welfare as we know it is about to be given ye ol heav ho. astounding that most are not even aware of this. very soon you will have to get on a computer at the library to apply for welfare and go to some place in the city you have never heard of for orientation and never the same place if late too bad reschedule do it yourself at the library. you wont have a case worker and you wont be able to get checks at the welfare office. there will be no welfare office it will be internet based. if you wanta get help you will have to call a 800 customer service number. (probably karachi) as to section 8 housing usually surrounding welfare offices --
if you have not already noticed section 8 is being repopulated by illegals and their USA born kids. the entitlement program is about to be hijacked.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Ok, so in your dictionary, doesnt talk about wealth distribution?
And how is welfare not wealth distribution?
The domestic horse Wikipedia article talks about zebras. Does that mean zebras are domestic horses?

The United Kingdom Wikipedia article talks about France. Does that mean France is part of the United Kingdom?

Welfare is NOT exclusive to socialism. Ever heard of welfare capitalism?
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:44 PM
 
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Correct.

Welfare is used in socialist countries but that does not make welfare itself socialist.

The logic displayed is this:
1) Socialist countries have welfare systems
2) The United States has a welfare system
3) The United States is a socialist country

Using the same logic as above we could do this:
1) Fascist countries have flags
2) The United States has a flag
3) The United States is a fascist country

And this:
1) Terrorists use computers
2) cjma79 uses a computer
3) cjma79 is a terrorist

It's called a non sequitur argument. I could go on and on.
You really are uneducated, even the polls are saying welfare is socialism
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