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Old 10-28-2008, 11:55 PM
 
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True. But here's the thing: How many of them were voted in by white liberals? A white UAW worker may vote for a black dem congressman if it meant someone fighting to keep his comfy job. Doesn't mean he would let him date his daughter thou.

Politics isn't always a great example. An example would be where do AA's find the most success. Suprise, the red states do well in that regard...
Where did you find those figures?

Answer your own question as to why minorities vote Democratic… they are bombarded by 'one opinion' in every form of media they see or hear!

George W. Bush’s cabinet includes several firsts, including the appointments of Colin Powell, the first African-American Secretary of State; Condoleezza Rice, the first African-American woman to serve as National Security Advisory Advisor; Elaine Chao, the first Chinese American to serve as Secretary of Labor, Gale Norton, the first woman to serve as Secretary of the interior, and Secretary Ann M. Vneman, the first woman secretary of Agriculture.

Then there were others from minority pool that was hired by ‘compassionate conservative’ Bush though they were not the ‘firsts.’ “HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson (former HUD Secretary Mel Martinez); Secretary of Education Rod Paige; Secretary of Transportation Nom Mineta; and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham.”

The list of hiring of public servants of Color does not end here. The Republicans proudly publicized other public servants of Color who were hired for ‘high level position.’ A public servant is a servant whether he works in the kitchen or works as a driver. They are “SBA Administrator Hector Barreto; GSA Administrator Steve Perry; Surgeon General Dr. Richard Carmona; NIH Director Dr. Elias Zerhouni; White House Counsel Judge Alberto Gonzales; Roger Ferguson, vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve; Michael Powell, Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission; Kay James, Director of the Office of Personnel Management; and Steve Perry, Administrator of General Services (GSA) and he kissed every illegal’s backside and the dictator who ran their crap-hole of a country!

They have high level positions and are not just 'token' minorities!

Don’t give me this…

African-American (D --- R)
Senate --- 1 --- 0
House --- 42 --- 0

CRAP!!!
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:58 PM
 
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Where did you find those figures?

Answer your own question as to why minorities vote Democratic… they are bombarded by 'one opinion' in every form of media they see or hear!

George W. Bush’s cabinet includes several firsts, including the appointments of Colin Powell, the first African-American Secretary of State; Condoleezza Rice, the first African-American woman to serve as National Security Advisory Advisor; Elaine Chao, the first Chinese American to serve as Secretary of Labor, Gale Norton, the first woman to serve as Secretary of the interior, and Secretary Ann M. Vneman, the first woman secretary of Agriculture.

Then there were others from minority pool that was hired by ‘compassionate conservative’ Bush though they were not the ‘firsts.’ “HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson (former HUD Secretary Mel Martinez); Secretary of Education Rod Paige; Secretary of Transportation Nom Mineta; and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham.”

The list of hiring of public servants of Color does not end here. The Republicans proudly publicized other public servants of Color who were hired for ‘high level position.’ A public servant is a servant whether he works in the kitchen or works as a driver. They are “SBA Administrator Hector Barreto; GSA Administrator Steve Perry; Surgeon General Dr. Richard Carmona; NIH Director Dr. Elias Zerhouni; White House Counsel Judge Alberto Gonzales; Roger Ferguson, vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve; Michael Powell, Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission; Kay James, Director of the Office of Personnel Management; and Steve Perry, Administrator of General Services (GSA) and he kissed every illegal’s backside and the dictator who ran their crap-hole of a country!

They have high level positions and are not just 'token' minorities!

Don’t give me this…

African-American (D --- R)
Senate --- 1 --- 0
House --- 42 --- 0

CRAP!!!
Sorry shizzles I meant to copy saganista's quote!
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:07 AM
 
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Alright, I hear 'ya on some of those. But isn't there ever a point at which endlessly parsing and analyzing every single word choice, every timing issue, every video clip, every edit, etc.... just becomes ridiculous? And unless you're talking about outright lies and fabrications, it seems like alot of the objections you're citing are basically "subjective" ones that will always be open to broad interpretation anyway. For example, how many people agree on what constitutes "mountains out of molehills"? For some newsfolks they may be serious issues. But is it really "liberal bias" because you don't share their same concerns? Or should they claim "conservative bias" whenever they don't share yours?

Personally I don't think the media has a specific slant that's either "right" or "left". They just go with what sells to their target audience at the moment, which probably explains the lurid attention on the Clinton scandal by the supposed "liberal media", as well as the recent "softening" of the usual "conservative slant" by FOX NEWS. And my suspicion is that FOX will become even more "pragmatic", if that's what the market seems to demand after the elections.
I hate writing long posts but some of these things require more explaining! I will compare Obama and Palin and break down a lot of the unfairness in the media and facts! I will also post some information of ACORN for those of you who feel it is a great organization! See how much of this you will find on the regular news channels... research the information yourself! Find the government websites and research their voting records and the facts of the accusations! Make an educated guess! Stay away from extremist web-sites and a seek the legit source!

Here is a comparison between the Democrat’s #1 choice (Obama) and the Republican’s #2 choice! (Palin)

Sarah Palin defeated the incumbent when she ran for Mayor and she defeated the incumbent ‘Republican’ Governor in the primary before going on to defeat the Democrat in the general election. She served two terms on the Wasilla city council in the 1990s and was elected mayor in 1999. Between the governor’s office and the mayor’s office she has accumulated 8 years of executive experience. Obama has NONE! She has vetoed 300 spending proposals and has an 80% approval rating in the largest state in the union, Alaska.

she has 2 years of Military experience being in charge of Alaska's National Guard. Obama has NONE! and before you dismiss 2 years of being in charge of the National Guard…

"Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's.

She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

Obviously she can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.

Palin, Sept. 3: “I came to office promising major ethics reform to end the culture of self-dealing. And today, that ethics reform is a law. While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over-the-top. I put it on eBay.”

The Liberal media hammered her on that, saying she lost the state money on the deal and is not fit to run for VP. The jet was purchased in 2005; despite objections from state officials and the public that it was an unnecessary expense her predecessor went ahead and did it anyway for 2.7 million dollars. Costing the state more than $62,000 in quarterly payments. She tried numerous ways to sell it and finally did for 2.1 million for the “used jet !!!” She kept her word… she even let go the Governor’s personal chef to save the state money… as a mother of 5 she could have really used that personal chef! But she couldn’t see the people paying for it!

October 11, 2008 Obama’s claim that Obama Never Organized with ACORN Proven Untrue (there are pictures and written documentation of him working for ACORN.) For those of you who think there is nothing wrong with ACORN then why did he lie about it? His first job was as a Community organizer for ACORN, then as a trainer for the corrupt ACORN organization. (Yep! Obama has all of the qualifications to be president!) ACORN has been convicted in the past in [SIZE=3]6[/SIZE] different states of voter registration fraud! (Look it up!) Right now, they are being investigated for voter fraud and mis-use of funds in 14 states! They claim that they are a non-partisan group but all of the voters that they sign up happen to vote Democratic straight ticket! Their political action committee has officially endorsed Barack Obama! Yet, the Democrats continuously accuse Republicans of voter fraud but defend all of ACORN’s actions! Google it or type in voter fraud ACORN in Youtube!

For 20 years Obama went to an anti-white and anti-American church! (Not all Americans are black… he is going to have to help whites and Republicans as well!) His close personal friends are admitted terrorists like William Ayres! His big claim to fame is the work he does in Chicago… lets take a look at that:

Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago , 221 killed in Iraq. (A war zone)

Senators Barack Obama & Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor Richard Daley . . . our leadership in Illinois . . . all Democrats. Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago (a lot of good gun control does, huh?). Of course they are all blaming each other. Can't blame the Republicans, there aren't any!

State pension fund is $44 Billion in debt . . . worst in the country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% . . . highest in the country. (Look it up!)

The Chicago school system is one of the worst in the country!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois . . . and he's going to 'fix' Washington politics???!

We can prove that he worked for ACORN because we can find actual documentation… But we still cannot prove nor find his actual birth certificate to prove he is a citizen! It’s funny that they can look at Rush Limbaugh’s personal medical records against his wishes and Sara Palin’s personal e-mail account but they can’t find their own candidate’s records to squash the controversy! That sound pretty fishy to me!

From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. (Yep, his experience blows the GOP’s VP ticket away!)
We cannot get any records from him to back up anything he says and he still cannot prove he IS a citizen!

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- not available, locked down by faculty
4. Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- "not available"
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published – None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articlesNone
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or "not available"
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--"not available"

143 days!!! That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working. After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World .... 143 days.

You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.

You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.

AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America? Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol!

Sarah Palin is a hunter, lifelong NRA member, snowmobiler, and staunch conservative. She has shown enormous courage with her oldest son going off to serve in the military and her going through with the birth of her son even though they knew the child would have downs syndrome; Sarah has also endured numerous personal attacks on her and her family; as well as the fact that Tennessee Democratic state Rep. Mike Kernell had his son hack into Sarah Palin’s personal e-mail account. She also was publically accused of her having caused her baby’s downs syndrome by the media (as if dealing with everything she has been going through is not hard enough!) So Obama played high school basketball… so did Sarah Palin and she was the Captain of her team! She was "Miss Congeniality” and took second place in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant in 1984. Big deal! The media will hound her about all of that and leave out all of the great things she has done for Alaska!

Obama gets no hard questions, no follow-ups on anything he says, and all he does is say that we need CHANGE and claims racism every chance he gets! Even Bill Clinton (the real first black president) said that Obama was playing the race card hard against Hillary! Obama makes stupid comments and no reporters follow up on them…like when Obama said, “I don’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills!” Then again somewhere else the same day Obama said, "Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," "You know, he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name, you know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills." And others! Every civil right women and minorities have is due to the REPUBLICAN PARTY fighting for those rights! It was the southern Democrats that kept fighting it. It was Conservatives that marched with Martin Luther King Jr.

I keep feeling like I'm forgetting something... well it's long enough anyway! Sorry for the length!
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:15 AM
 
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You left out the part about Palin's belief that men walked with the dinosaurs. Intellectually wacko.

You left out the part about Palin proclaiming Christian Prayer day in Alaska. Radically pro-Christian in the public arena.

You left out the part about Palin's cronyist political style once elected. Plenty of news articles about this to consult. Did you not notice them?

You left out the fact that Palin received blessings in her own church for protection from WITCHES.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/567096.html (broken link)

Please don't waste anyone else's time talking about Palin's EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE (that would be relevant to being POTUS or VPOTUS) while being mayor of a boonies town of less then 10,000 people! Let's hope you don't take your own words seriously!

Etc., Etc.

Last edited by ParkTwain; 10-29-2008 at 01:24 AM..
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:22 AM
 
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You left out the part about Palin's belief that men walked with the dinosaurs. Intellectually wacko.

You left out the part about Palin proclaiming Christian Prayer day in Alaska. Radically pro-Christian in the public arena.

You left out the part of Palin's cronyism political style once elected. Plenty of news articles about this to consult. Did you not notice them?

Etc., Etc.
As governor she was chosen to represent the people of Alaska... do you know what the percentage of Alaska is Christian and if that was what the people wanted?

Again, so she believes men walked with dinosaurs... Art Bell saw a UFO! As did Jimmy Carter!

The things I wrote are substentive! You wrote about Palin's belief that men walked with the dinosaurs... do you work for NBC or CNN?
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:24 AM
 
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Liberal = Keeps the same emotions and beliefs as a 5 year old.

Conservative = Grows out of the 5 year old mentality to learn people really do want you dead and people really do feel entitled to things you have worked for.

So there for a liberals motives are to change everything around them so everything is fair and people love each other....hippy world....etc....

And there for a conservative feels they are having rights taken away and their individuality removed and their beliefs attacked.

So goes the vicious circle. Worse yet what used to be liberal is now LIBERAL! so even people middle of the road seem like far righties.

One uses the "fairness" mantra the other uses "isolationism" by just wanting to be left alone.
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:45 AM
 
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You left out the part about Palin's belief that men walked with the dinosaurs. Intellectually wacko.

You left out the part about Palin proclaiming Christian Prayer day in Alaska. Radically pro-Christian in the public arena.

You left out the part about Palin's cronyist political style once elected. Plenty of news articles about this to consult. Did you not notice them?

You left out the fact that Palin received blessings in her own church for protection from WITCHES.
Palin blessing echoed extreme strategy: Comment | adn.com (http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/567096.html - broken link)

Please don't waste anyone else's time talking about Palin's EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE (that would be relevant to being POTUS or VPOTUS) while being mayor of a boonies town of less then 10,000 people! Let's hope you don't take your own words seriously!

Etc., Etc.
US Census Bureau: Alaska is mostly Baptist.

Native Alaskan have a long Christian history, in part from Russian Orthodox, Catholic missionaries, and Moravian influence. As in many Alaskan villages, Christian tradition has become interwoven with its cultural history.

According to the Yukon-Koyukuk Census Area, Alaska, United States, North America. There is a place named Christian its geographical coordinates are 67° 21' 36" North, 145° 11' 46" West.

In Chicago... they are going to use "public" funds to create an 'all gay public high school'. Do you think the majority of Chicago is gay? I don't! How is it perfectly alright to use "my tax dollars" to create something that should only be done with private money (Obama) and not ok for (Palin) to set aside a single day of prayer for a heavily Christian community that she is elected to represent!?

Talk about your Liberal bias!

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Old 10-29-2008, 05:47 AM
 
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In America we have freedom OF religion... not from religion!
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:51 AM
 
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You left out the part about Palin's belief that men walked with the dinosaurs. Intellectually wacko.

You left out the part about Palin proclaiming Christian Prayer day in Alaska. Radically pro-Christian in the public arena.

You left out the part about Palin's cronyist political style once elected. Plenty of news articles about this to consult. Did you not notice them?

You left out the fact that Palin received blessings in her own church for protection from WITCHES.
Palin blessing echoed extreme strategy: Comment | adn.com (http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/567096.html - broken link)

Please don't waste anyone else's time talking about Palin's EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE (that would be relevant to being POTUS or VPOTUS) while being mayor of a boonies town of less then 10,000 people! Let's hope you don't take your own words seriously!

Etc., Etc.
As for her executive experience... Some executive exp. over a 'few people' is still more than NONE over 'no people' like Obama!
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:03 AM
 
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When the executive experience includes persecuting an ex brother in law and having the state pay for vacations for your kids, then I prefer no executive experience at all. Better a clean slate than a vindictive and corrupt thief.

Question: what motivates the right wing?

Answer: Greed, Fear, God
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