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I was wondering how many minutes it would take someone on this forum to take a gargantuan leap of logic and take this tabloid shock story by Drudge and spin it into an insinuation against Obama supporters.
This was armed robbery - the motive was money - and the criminal is violent and obviously hates McCain - nothing more. The criminal can in no way, shape or form be construed to be connected with or reflective of the Obama campaign... not by a rational human being that is.
When I see stories like this being paraded by Drudge, Hannity and other conservative shrills for the Republican party, I realize that the Republicans have totally capitulated talking about issues that are important to the American public, and have decided instead to try to out slime the National Inquirer...
Obama is going to win walking away. McCain is fading because of the negative campaign he has waged and the terrible stand he has on the issues that Americans care about...
This kind of tripe indicates to me that the war is over, McCain will lose - we're just waiting for the fat lady to sing...
Rational and probable scenario, IF it actually happened.
What an intelligent reply. Duh. Did you think that up all by yourself.
I did read the story and it included this.
"That's it. McCain supporters are dicks. The usual gang of conservative bigmouths are inciting violence with their propaganda, and the suckers who want desperately to believe are so frustrated with the lack of believability of the propaganda that they're lashing out with violence and violent rhetoric."
Yes, I read that part too. What I did not see was any mention of McCain until the blogger typed the line about McCain supporters. Does that now make it about McCain?
I get it, if I want to relate something to Obama I just say Obama supporters are dicks and that means it is related to him now.
If she is an adult of sound mind, she cannot be forced to receive medical treatment if she does not want it.
Sorry about my sentence structure. I meant that she won't have a choice about providing evidence or testifying if a police report is being filed. I didn't mean she had to go to the hospital. Why wouldn't she want this man prosecuted?
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I don't blame her for refusing care initially. A reporter could have followed her to an ER. Once her identity gets out, her reputation will be dragged through the mud.
Regarding her identity, don't you find it odd that her photo appeared on a few right-wing, anti-Obama sites this morning? The police said no photo was taken to protect her privacy. Rarely would the photo of an assault victim me published in a newspaper.
If her face was really carved up, don't you think the police would have noticed?
Edit: By the way, I want to be clear. I have nothing but compassion for this woman if she was a victim of assault. However, I do question some of the stories I'm reading. Maybe I'm too vain, but I'd want to be treated right away in case there was a chance it could reduce scarring. I shouldn't have mentioned my assault, since I don't want to get specific. It was a long time ago, over 20 years, but it's something you don't forget. I also did not go directly to the police, but called a counselor who talked me into reporting the attack the next day. We all look at life through our own eyes. I just can't imagine remembering the color of his shoes, even though it was very dark, but not remembering the bank. There are other things but, as I said, I don't want to go into detail and get too personal. Maybe the story is true. I guess I reacted strongly because, when it is a lie, it just makes it so much harder when women are victims of violence.
Last edited by justNancy; 10-23-2008 at 10:51 PM..
Originally Posted by andreabeth
I don't blame her for refusing care initially. A reporter could have followed her to an ER. Once her identity gets out, her reputation will be dragged through the mud.
That may be true, but what is unfortunate for her is that she has a blog and a Youtube video out about her working in the campaign.
That's pretty sick. I'm an Obama supporter and am tolerant on most things, but violent criminals is not one of them. That poor girl will be traumatized for a long time.
Why do you automatically assume that this is “election” related?
Seriously, I’m from that area.
Random acts of violence are anything but rare.
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I don't support Obama at all, but I think something is wrong here. Two other posters brought up "Geraldo" and I thought about the same thing. In fact, I think it was Morton Downey Jr who carved a swastika into his face, because it was determined later he did it backwards, just like this B. Time is going to prove this woman, I fear, to be a fraud. And if that is the case, she should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. In the event I am wrong, and this person was mugged, the perpetrator should be thrown in jail for the rest of his life. I am a big 'law and order' guy, and have absolutely no use for someone who perpetrates an act like this, particularly a younger, less physically strong woman.
On a side note, I can't wait until November 5th. I really can't. I am so sick of all these campaigns. Politics has devolved into a full contact sport, where the objective is to out-raise and out-shout the opponent down. And for what? Think of all the money, for instance, that has been poured into these campaigns. And for you socialists, because I know there are plenty of you out there, think of how much better that money could have been used in the form of private charity, instead of all this crap.
Have you thought this through?
This is a case of armed robbery.
Why would you want someone to be in jail for the rest of their life when rapists go free every day.
Her face will heal; rape is the gift that keeps on giving, for the rest of someone’s life.
Had you said to the full extent of the law, it would be one thing… since that’s all you’re asking of the possible liar that started all of this brouhaha.
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watch your channel 4 then, that is where the story is
Sorry, that story and video clip says almost nothing.
Her comments about this being “election” motivated are hearsay; how can that be proven?
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Edit: By the way, I want to be clear. I have nothing but compassion for this woman if she was a victim of assault. However, I do question some of the stories I'm reading. Maybe I'm too vain, but I'd want to be treated right away in case there was a chance it could reduce scarring. I shouldn't have mentioned my assault, since I don't want to get specific. It was a long time ago, over 20 years, but it's something you don't forget. I also did not go directly to the police, but called a counselor who talked me into reporting the attack the next day. We all look at life through our own eyes. I just can't imagine remembering the color of his shoes, even though it was very dark, but not remembering the bank. There are other things but, as I said, I don't want to go into detail and get too personal. Maybe the story is true. I guess I reacted strongly because, when it is a lie, it just makes it so much harder when women are victims of violence.
Nancy, I agree with you, for the same reason.
I found it very confusing that she was grabbed from behind, money stolen and could give a pretty exact albeit generic response.
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Originally Posted by andreabeth
I don't blame her for refusing care initially. A reporter could have followed her to an ER. Once her identity gets out, her reputation will be dragged through the mud.
That may be true, but what is unfortunate for her is that she has a blog and a Youtube video out about her working in the campaign.
She had to be involved in the Youtube and photo ops.
Doesn't that ring some bells for you?
Sure does for me.
As I said, I'm from that area; I get crime emails from my community. This is not your normal MO.
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