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Old 10-30-2008, 02:15 PM
 
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I am curious considering at least half of the population voted for him in the last two elections. He ran (which is not his fault) and won, so whose fault is it for all the problems he created?

1) As I said before, at least half of the voters, voted for him. Are they at fault?

2) Is it Democrats fault? They put up contenders like Al Gore (who in my opinion is even worse than Bush) and John Kerry (don't know what the presidency would be like with him in it). Is the Dems fault for putting out bad competing candidates?

3) Even though Clinton (and Dems) started the Housing mess, Bush and the GOP continued it to the Housing bust. Is it Clinton's and Dems fault for this whole mess or is it the GOP and Bush fault for continuing the flawed liberal plan?

4) The Iraq war was a war of special interests of collusion between Big Oil and Big Government. Is it their fault that they "tipped" over the economic crisis? Or is the millions of Americans (including liberals and conservatives) who were "for" the war at the beginning?

5) The GOP controlled Congress for most of the part in the Bush years but the Dems had a significant power in Congress as well. Was it the Dems fault for not stopping the neo-conservatives plots? Or is it the neo-conservatives fault for not being stopped?

6) The Dems took over Congress in the last two years or so, but have made a lot of blunders during that time. Is it the Dems fault for all the mess afterwards? Or is it Bush's fault because he was their figurehead?

Undoubtedly, Bush is one of the worst presidents ever... whose fault is it? The people who elected him? The people (including liberals) who clamored for his policies? The fact that he followed liberal policies from the Clinton, is it Clinton's fault? Is it Big Business/Big Oil's fault who created his policies in the last eight years? So whose fault is it? And how are they paying? Is it the GOP's fault for enacting his bad policies? Is it the Dems fault for not stopping these policies? Is the Dems fault when they took power and did more wrong things? Whose fault is it? We blame Bush... but I suspect, the neo-conservatives, the liberals, the GOP, the Dems, and Big Business/Big Oil are all at fault... even when "they" are the problem, what do I see in this election? Big Oil is expanding with more drilling... and record profits. Big Business is getting bailouts from taxpayers money. The Dems are taking hold over Senate and House and perhaps the Presidency. The liberals are demanding more handouts when we have $10 trillion in debt. The neo-conservatives demand worldwide US presence because they think controlling the world is better than managing our own problems. Bush is leaving the presidency with a HUGE windfall from his oil buddies. The GOP is perhaps a dying breed because they betrayed true conservative values for neo-conservative values... we just continue making things worse... almost nobody paid for this mess...

So whose fault is it? Americans are suffering from the web of problems they weaved themselves by keeping the Dems and GOP in office. When will Americans learn that the problem are both with Dems and GOP? They weaved too much of a Big Government to keep them in the politcal forays... We need an end to corruption... Will Obama be the answer? Honestly, I think he will "try" to end corruption but in the end, he will put corruption in place of corruption... socialism is the ultimate in corruption... doesn't he understand that? Whose fault will it be when Obama makes the situation even worse? Will McCain be the answer? McCain wants to fight corruption but at the same time leave loopholes in the system to continue the corruption... I wanted a candidate to fight the corruption... I wanted Ron Paul to win... alas... Americans choose for more corruption instead which is the heart of the problem... so I guess in the end, Americans are the ones to be blamed... they invited this mess for a few dollars in their hands..
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Old 10-30-2008, 03:05 PM
 
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The Supreme Court appointed Bush president 2000.
Stolen election for president 2004.
And yes there were lots of republicans who voted for George.
My guess is that those who had the power to stop criminal actions are just as much at fault as those who did the crime. Failure of the news media, failure of the party, failure of those in position to have stepped forward and didn’t. The system failed because of more then one cause. Congress couldn’t pass anything because of the veto power of the president, the Senate would filibustered under control of republicans. And yes the Dems allow this to continue as a crime with the Bush administration in office.


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Stolen Election 2000
Regime Change at the NY Times: Bush Was SELECTED
17-Oct-04
Stolen Election 2000
It looks like there has been a Regime Change at the NY Times! On 11-12-01, the Times front page read: "Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote." In fact, that study - the Media Consortium recount of 175,000 NEVER-counted ballots - showed the opposite, namely that Gore won under 6 of 9 scenarios. Today, in its endorsement of John Kerry, the Times finally acknowledge the TRUTH: "the Supreme Court awarded [Bush] the presidency." Better late than never...
Democrats.com Archive: Stolen Election 2000


Statement by the President
On Introduction of Oxley/Roukema/Green Housing Legislation H.R. 3995 "Housing Affordability for America Act of 2002":
Statement by the President

H.R. 3995—THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY FOR AMERICA ACT OF 2002

TUESDAY, APRIL 23, 2002
U.S. House of Representatives,
Subcommittee on Housing and
Community Opportunity,
Committee on Financial Services,
Washington, DC.

H.R. 3995, the Housing Affordability for America Act of 2002


H.R.3995 List of sponsors ~ 58 Republicans & 20 Dems - interesting?


H.R. 3995 [107th]: Housing Affordability for America Act of 2002 (GovTrack.us)

I think I see where the housing problem started and triggered the economy collapse. The question now is “will McSame follow the in the same footsteps as George”?

President Hosts Conference on Minority Homeownership

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Old 10-30-2008, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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Bush did not steal anything.
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Old 10-30-2008, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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[quote=evilnewbie;5927922]I am curious considering at least half of the population voted for him in the last two elections. He ran (which is not his fault) and won, so whose fault is it for all the problems he created?

1) As I said before, at least half of the voters, voted for him. Are they at fault?


I would have to say that its the fault of all thoughs who voted for the Nimrod.

I was once told by a Bible thumping relative of mine that (Bush was a God fearing man). The one reply that came to mind was "he should be fearing God right now for all the men and women he has sent to thier graves". And I really hope that all the truth comes to light about all the lies and back door politics he has perpetrated during his 8 years of evil power. And all thoughs that think he's a God fearing man see the truth of this (Dirty Oil War in Iraq).
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Do you say the same thing about the nimrods who flew the planes into the twin towers, pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania?

Bush isn't the greatest president ever, but he can't do things he wants to just because he thinks he can. He has to have the approval of the House and Senate, one of which is dominated by Democrats. They are also the ones who write legislation so if there are people to blame for things, then by all means, spread the love to all who deserve it. Not just one person alone.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:25 PM
 
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Look from top to bottom for thois economic messs. From the p[eople who signed false income staements;to the lender who did check or care because he was sellign the loan and to teh congress who did want to stop the lending to peole they knew could affors the houses to the presidents clinton who started the lending to bush who didn't propose a end to it. Grred from top to bottom os the key. Otherwise no body would ahve given or taken these loans. Now they are busy pointing fingers.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:30 PM
 
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I don't think the "courts" decided who was president then... officially when the results were released, Bush won... Gore was the one who wanted the courts to decide and he still lost... Bush is the worst president ever but that's only because Gore didn't become president otherwise he would of won that role... Gore is one of the worst human beings ever...
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I blame partisan blinders. Its one thing to have voted for him the first time around but to vote him BACK in after the handwriting was on the wall is just foolishness.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:41 PM
 
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Clinton lowered the bar to the point where Gore and Bush were acceptable to be allowed to run. Then it was Bush and Kerry, again very low quality candidates. Now we've sunk even lower, the lowest we've ever sunk with choices for President.
Anybody remember " The Dead Zone" with Martin Sheen as Stilson? I think we have two very bad Stephen King characters fighting to become Prez.
No matter who wins, we all lose.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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You know, I just about feel that way myself.
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