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Anyways, my point is everytime one has sex the possibility for a pregnancy is clear. Of course when having sex, people are not thinking about that...
What about failed birth control? Lack of financial ability? Potential risk to mother and/or child's health?
There are perfectly married and legal couples that do not want children/cannot have children. Abortion should be available to them should then need it.
You're right. But it is killing...abortion that is...
Forced pregnancy is also holding a person to a situation they are unwilling to do. So do you want to classify that as slavery or a hostage situation? Either one is illegal. And then the unwanted pregnancy would do things to her body---that can be classified as mutilation and abuse. Do we need to continue with this line of logic?
What about failed birth control? Lack of financial ability? Potential risk to mother and/or child's health?
There are perfectly married and legal couples that do not want children/cannot have children. Abortion should be available to them should then need it.
Birth control should be illegal. It is ABORTION. If a child is born with disabilities, he should still be loved and not murdered for the convienence of the parents. Abortion is never necessary. I fully agree with Aaron.
Birth control should be illegal. It is ABORTION. If a child is born with disabilities, he should still be loved and not murdered for the convienence of the parents. Abortion is never necessary. I fully agree with Aaron.
Abortion is not illegal
Birth Control is not illegal
The world is not how you want it to be.
Do you want to kill yourself now?
I would argue that it is cruel to the fetus who very much feels the pain.
While no one can know precisely what the experience of a fetus in utero is, it is extremely unlikely that a fetus even well into the third trimester is capable of experiencing anything even remotely resembling what you or I would recognize as the experience of pain. This capacity is not actually completed until well after birth (a baby's cry when slapped moments after birth is not a reaction to pain, but rather a startle-reflex, analogous to the gulp of air you would take if I snuck up behind you and cried "Boo!"). Meanwhile, the sort of T=0 point where at least the physical structures that will eventually be used to recognize pain have been completed occurs in the late 7th and early 8th month. Pro-life groups have of course promulgated a bogus pseudo-science in favor of fetal pain based on responses to noxious stimulii that are also exhibited by amoebae and many other primitive, single-celled organisms. These claims are even worse than those of creation science.
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My argument against partial birth resides in that some if not many are not done as a procedure to save a mother at risk. There needs to be more oversight regarding this procedure.
The procedure was developed primarily for its technical superiority over other late-term options, but secondarily because it provided to usually grieving parents confronting the loss of a very much wanted pregnancy, something whole and intact. Something they could hold, and wrap, and grieve over, and bury if they chose to do so. Even, or perhaps especially, doctors who perform late term abortions are men and women of considerable compassion.
As the procedure became practiced, established, and recognized as part of standard medical procedure, it was indeed pushed back from exclusive third trimester use into late second trimester procedures. The reasons for that were the same as those recited earlier. Reduced cost, risk, and physical and emotional impact on the patient.
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No argument with the rest of your post.
Me either. :-)
Last edited by saganista; 11-01-2008 at 09:09 PM..
Abortion is not illegal
Birth Control is not illegal
The world is not how you want it to be.
Do you want to kill yourself now?
Ah, another woman---incapable of rational debate!
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