Why Is The Republican Party A Magnet For Hate Groups? (Limbaugh, independence)
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...silly communist socialist throwbacks covered in tats and body piercings?
Why does the Democrat party habitually support the most far left politics imaginable, systematically ignoring mainstream America.
Why does the Democrat party hate America, and why are they completely incapable of showing even a shred of respect for America?
Why do the Democrats always "come off" as the most pompous elitist dripping rich hypocrites around?
Why do we see Democrats using thugs to "protect" polling stations....or Democrat "teachers" harassing little kids who don't think the way "teacher" tells them to...
Why?
Because the Democrat party is the party of freaks....not Americans.
Could someone please provide some insight as to why the Republican party seems to attract hate groups and racially insensitive groups of individuals. The recent arrest of Republican party skinheads who threatened the life of Obama as well as recent comments from John Murtha, referring to Western Pennsylvanians as "Redneck racists" seem to suggest that the Republican party and racism are synonymous. Also, neo-nazi, and KKK organizations are obviously voting Republican and voting the McCain/Palin ticket.
Am I off base here, or are my observation/opinions correct?
The KKK was founded by DEMOCRATS to lynch and terrorize the Black people. The leader of the KKK was a DEMOCRAT.
Interesting thread OP. Yes, I too have noticed how drawn hate groups are to the republican camp. I think republicans in this thread have confessed every word of it with every tactic used. I think those hate groups have swayed over the years from blue to red, enjoy enclaves in society at large, at the expense of society ultimately. Neither party can realize just how much they've changed their core philosophy over time to the point of being indistinguishable from the 'other'. Stating this in prior threads has not encouraged anyone to self examine their own party dogma, but true to form, became another version of weapon to use against another.
Noahma I'm particularly fascinated by your logic because it's represented the most distasteful aspect of the republican party at large dressed up as rational. Let's just call it the O'Reilly factor. Someone raises a point that they feel the republican party represents something negative and alienates half the country, and you (among others) proceed to attack the other half of the country! Yes, I understand you feel 'justified', maybe even a little insulted that someone made a presumption about you personally. Meeting a presumption with more presumptions? Poor negotiating skills (that BTW will hurt you in personal relationships and business more than you can imagine). Nope, I'm not a dem, but I'm an interested third party witnessing all this insanity on the sidelines for decades. My country has been dying of a million paper cuts from this never ending infighting. It's left us all wide open to the likes of Enron. Does this concern you? Obama and McCains computers were both hacked by what is believed to be chinese.
Republicans (members and elected) seem to have forgotten that no matter what the political issue of the day that might get heated passionately for or against, your neighbors will still be your neighbors when the issue is resolved. Good thing Obama supporters caught on quickly in light of ill treatment of clinton supporters. Beyond bush, we're all brothers and sisters in ONE nation regardless of race/ creed/ ethnicity/ gender. Divided we fall. We've become very weakened as a nation as a result of fiscal irresponsibility, gross negligence, and deliberately pitting americans against themselves along every line possible (class wars, race wars, gender wars, ad infinitum).
Every single citizen needs to ask who profits from this??? Not you, not I. Al Qaeda does. Rupert Murdoch does. Al Sharpton used to. I think he's seen the light on that subject because blacks themselves told him he was misguided. ^5 black community for policing your own and encouraging personal accountability. Welcome to the human race, glad you realized your rightful place at the table. Now can we get to work fixing ALL problems together, not just pet issues?
^5 NRA for policing your own and supporting laws that punish irresponsible gun owners shooting at law enforcement officers or used in the commission of a crime.
^5 for catholic charities organization who do not run people down about abortion. The more viable pro life movement offers an option of adoption or fiscal support for those faced with unbelievable burdens and having no faith in themselves that they can provide for a dependent. Abortion clinic bombers... go sit by your dish.
The point of me blathering on this long on this subject is that the tactics used to state your cases (ALL SIDES) have not been conducive to negotiating win-win situations for us all. It's my hope all parties can stand outside the fray and see this as sibling rivalry brought to a level of destructive behavior. 70 million of taxpayer $$$ to investigate a BJ wasn't enough? Trillions fighting daddy's war wasn't enough? How broke must we get before you all wake up? You're quibbling over pennies while trillions run out the door?? I swear at times I want to smack all of you silly.
I strongly disagree with mormonism and won't be caught dead practicing their lifestyle, but if they're the ones paying the price for that life exclusively I have no business being in their business. I respect their right to exist, but it would appear by their conduct they have no respect for anyone else's right to exist. Forcing a 14 yr old into an arranged marriage??? Holding members hostage in mormon enclaves? Brain washing? Bankroll campaigns against gays? Act like a terrorist, you need to be escorted out of the civilization that feeds you. This includes every extremist group crossing the line (ELF is one of them, as is KKK).
Too many are mesmerized on middle eastern terrorists, but what about our home grown ones? What about the ones waging economic warfare silently by purchasing legislation that favors them personally at the expense of all??? Want to characterize that as earning money honestly, or call it theft of epic proportions? Let me see republicans stand up to that BS steadily pirating our wealth as a nation. What will it mean to you, as republicans, if those criminals are among you in your party? What about you dems... will you play along or ignore they exist in your own? Can we all agree that corruption of any sort is not welcome in the governing body we all pay for with our lifetime of dollars and blood?
Dem's, it's wrong to assume wealthy people earned that money by 'stealing', although I sure can see your point at how the rewards system is horrible in our country. It's not possible to legislate the same way it's impossible to legislate morality. The problem is in our cultural values as a nation IMO, and if jerry springer & howard stern idiots represent the majority of USA we're in serious trouble because THIS is who politicians pander to ultimately. On a personal note- it's not only how much you make but what you do with what you've got. My deepest thanks to true conservatives who taught me how to fish, enabling me to help myself. Why this kind of information isn't available to others... I guess some just can't hear or can't believe. I think many aren't generous in teaching it because they believe in the zero sum game mentality that only one winner can exist, that if you know what I know you'll have the competitive edge over me. Those outside the loop might walk to the train station and decide no train exists because they don't know how to read a train schedule. Seems to me education focused directly on this issue would pay for itself for all classes of people.
Rep's, it's wrong to assume poor people earned that title for lack of ambition, hard work, or even education. Military families qualify for food stamps at times... so think again about what you're saying when you attack welfare wholesale. Going to characterize them as lazy good for nothing waste of society? The pervasive attitude I hear from republicans is a complete disrespect for labor, characterizing them as being too ignorant to earn a viable living cleverly pushing a paper around or making 6 figures pointing at others. I consider that as grotesque as freshman elitists who've never worked for a living. Carlton Sheets is a pyramid scam that we all pay for in the end. Food for thought.
Could someone please provide some insight as to why the Republican party seems to attract hate groups and racially insensitive groups of individuals. The recent arrest of Republican party skinheads who threatened the life of Obama as well as recent comments from John Murtha, referring to Western Pennsylvanians as "Redneck racists" seem to suggest that the Republican party and racism are synonymous. Also, neo-nazi, and KKK organizations are obviously voting Republican and voting the McCain/Palin ticket.
Am I off base here, or are my observation/opinions correct?
You are spot on. It is the central reason why I have nothing but disdain for the Republican party. Many of their constituents need to be quarantined because of the beliefs they hold.
Could someone please provide some insight as to why the Republican party seems to attract hate groups and racially insensitive groups of individuals. The recent arrest of Republican party skinheads who threatened the life of Obama as well as recent comments from John Murtha, referring to Western Pennsylvanians as "Redneck racists" seem to suggest that the Republican party and racism are synonymous. Also, neo-nazi, and KKK organizations are obviously voting Republican and voting the McCain/Palin ticket.
Am I off base here, or are my observation/opinions correct?
Well, in my own experiences....I know someone who is republican & they completely suck ass & are also totally racist..Yes, this is true, I've heard & seen their comments. Pretty sick & it just gets worse since Obama was elected (poor loser syndrome I suspect). And then I've seen some (a very VERY few) republicans who are not racist or prejudiced....however, as I've said, in my experiences, it's totallly rare to find one without the other.
[quote=karfar;6065879]Well, in my own experiences....I know someone who is republican & they completely suck ass & are also totally racist..Yes, this is true, I've heard & seen their comments. Pretty sick & it just gets worse since Obama was elected (poor loser syndrome I suspect). And then I've seen some (a very VERY few) republicans who are not racist or prejudiced....however, as I've said, in my experiences, it's totallly rare to find one without the other.[/quot
I know peole of many races that have made racist reemarks and of both parties. But then I also lived in thje 60's and know the republicans were not the leading party in places that had the race riots. Just because someone does not care for Obamas poltics does not mean they are racist. But then looking at the recent democratic primary the Obama people found it very easy to say that the clintons were racist. That made me wander about thier motives and truthfulness in these claims. At the same time they refused to admit that the remarks of Rev. Wright were racist which begs the question of their honesty.
[quote=Alexus;6065865]You are spot on. It is the central reason why I have nothing but disdain for the Republican party. Many of their constituents need to be quarantined because of the beliefs they hold.[/quote]
Noahma I'm particularly fascinated by your logic because it's represented the most distasteful aspect of the republican party at large dressed up as rational. Let's just call it the O'Reilly factor. Someone raises a point that they feel the republican party represents something negative and alienates half the country, and you (among others) proceed to attack the other half of the country! Yes, I understand you feel 'justified', maybe even a little insulted that someone made a presumption about you personally. Meeting a presumption with more presumptions? Poor negotiating skills (that BTW will hurt you in personal relationships and business more than you can imagine). Nope, I'm not a dem, but I'm an interested third party witnessing all this insanity on the sidelines for decades. My country has been dying of a million paper cuts from this never ending infighting. It's left us all wide open to the likes of Enron. Does this concern you? Obama and McCains computers were both hacked by what is believed to be chinese.
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to which post are you referring to? I have been responding to the fallacy of some of the posts. I have made a good attempt at showing that both sides are associated with the hate groups in some way or another. To let this slandering go on unchecked is not going to help people realize that both of these sides have problems that need to be cleaned.
I must apologize if I sound a little crass in some of my posts. Someone can only called a "racist", homophob" "sexist" if they have a conservative view point for so long before having to finally bite back.
I am not a republican, nor will I ever be party affiliated. I find good in both party's. (BTW, I voted for Bob Barr, not obama, or McCain.)
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Someone raises a point that they feel the republican party represents something negative and alienates half the country, and you (among others) proceed to attack the other half of the country! Yes, I understand you feel 'justified', maybe even a little insulted that someone made a presumption about you personally. Meeting a presumption with more presumptions? Poor negotiating skills (that BTW will hurt you in personal relationships and business more than you can imagine). Nope, I'm not a dem, but I'm an interested third party witnessing all this insanity on the sidelines for decades. My country has been dying of a million paper cuts from this never ending infighting. It's left us all wide open to the likes of Enron. Does this concern you? Obama and McCains computers were both hacked by what is believed to be chinese.
