Poorer states Republican/Richest states Democrat, why? (wages, Maine, Arkansas)

[nevergoingback]

Originally Posted by Bluefly

Are those numbers per capita or gross?

Says right in the title that it is not gross. It is Births per 1000 people ages 15-19. That would be per capita for that age group.

[Packersnut21]

Originally Posted by Bluefly

Well, I'm not sure how cattle come into this, but without gauging it on a per capita basis it just becomes an issue of population rather than any meaningful statistic. It'd be like saying there are more teen pregnancies in New York City than there are in Nome, Alaska. Means nothing. But if 5 out of 10 teens in Nome get pregnant and only 2 out of 10 in NYC do, then it begins to speak to something.

Because your stats are live births, so you completely ignore teenage pregnancies that happen but for some reason the baby does not make it. To me thats illogical.

[nevergoingback]

1. Nevada (113)
2. Arizona (104)
3. Mississippi (103)
4. New Mexico (103)
5. Texas (101)
6. Florida (97)
7. California (96)
8. Georgia (95)
9. North Carolina (95)
10. Arkansas (93)

Prenancies per 1000 people (ages 15-19)

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by Jill61

It's not only that. Take a look at which states are sucking off the teat of the Federal Government the most. . .

For every Federal tax dollar put in by these states, they take more than a dollar back in Federal spending in their state. I'll color code them to make it easier. Here are the top 25, ranked in order:

1. New Mexico
2. Mississippi
3. Alaska
4. Louisiana
5. West Virginia
6. North Dakota
7. Alabama
8. South Dakota
9. Kentucky
10. Virginia
11. Montana
12. Hawaii
13. Maine
14. Arkansas
15. Oklahoma
16. South Carolina
17. Missouri
18. Maryland
19. Tennessee
20. Idaho
21. Arizona
22. Kansas
23. Wyoming
24. Iowa
25. Nebraska

You want to know why so many of the red states are "sporting surpluses", perhaps it's because they're not supporting themselves, I'm supporting them.

And these are the people who whine about welfare.



The Tax Foundation - Federal Spending Received Per Dollar of Taxes Paid by State, 2005
President Map - Election Results 2008 - The New York Times

Lets say you put a nuclear waste depository in the desert of Nevada and ship in waste from all over the US. As a result, Nevada gets billions of dollars of federal money annually for construction, maintenance etc. Your *analysis* assumes that the other states are getting no benefit from paying Nevada for storing nuclear waste there.

I'm sure a lot of the money is related to military spending (bases) and farming (food production). These would both be "goods" that would create benefits outside of the host state.

This is a concept that is covered in some economics texts.

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by nevergoingback

Says right in the title that it is not gross. It is Births per 1000 people ages 15-19. That would be per capita for that age group.

If you look at the post quoted in my post, you will see that it does not say it in the title (the other one does).

This is the one to which I was referring:

If we go off the 2008 election of red state blue state the list is VERY interesting in teen pregnancy.

1. Nevada- Blue state
4. New Mexico- Blue state
6. Florida Blue State
7. California- Blue State
8. North Carolina- Blue State

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by Packersnut21

Because your stats are live births, so you completely ignore teenage pregnancies that happen but for some reason the baby does not make it. To me thats illogical.

I don't have any stats. I was just trying to understand your post.

[Packersnut21]

Originally Posted by Bluefly

I don't have any stats. I was just trying to understand your post.

You posted repeatedly the live birth stats, thus ignoring the actual number of teens pregnancies. Just because the baby was not born does not mean the teen did not get pregnant.

[BayDude]

How did this turn into a teen pregnancy thread?

What does teen pregnancy rate has to do with the original topic of red state vs blue states economics?

Why did we allow the liberals to sidetrack this thread to some irrelevant non-sense.

Lets get back on topic and ignore the irrelevant babble about teen birth rates.

[danwxman]

Originally Posted by big mean bear

People are LEAVING the traditional blue states (Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania) and moving to areas that have jobs and lower taxes (Texas, Arizona, Florida, Tennessee).

You couldn't be more wrong.

Pennsylvania's population is growing.

[Packersnut21]

It would seem alot of people are heading to Red States.

Six of the 10 fastest-growing states from 2007 to 2008 were Rocky Mountain states: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Utah and Wyoming. Three others lined the South Atlantic coast: Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina.

Link (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/013049.html - broken link)