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Old 06-28-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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He said "countries"; you mention "counties." There's a vast difference.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:29 PM
 
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There is no such thing a Liberal or Conservative country.
How about these definitions . .

The more centralized and autocratic (absolutely central), the more Conservative.

The more decentralized and democratic, the more Liberal.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:36 PM
 
Location: NC
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Singapore would be one fine example.
Singapore, with their massive social housing schemes, de facto bans on gun ownership and legalized prostitution...sure. Singapore is one of the biggest nanny states in the world.

Their southern neighbor, Indonesia, on the other hand is quite conservative from an American sense. Just as an example, they are democratic, but have "Indonesians believe in the one and only God" written into their constitution. They also have a reasonably free market economy, and secular government, with a strong religious right.

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Old 06-28-2009, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Boise
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the only great conservative states were dictatorships.. whether religious regimes, or secular (hitler)
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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In terms of right of center, for purposes of relocation, there aren't any... Isreal about to be nuked, Aus has been trending in the same direction as the US, with some hick-ups granted. US will NEVER see the right of center in her "career" again. The populous is far too international (diverse) by this time. Ignorance abounds, belief in "climate change" as an example, The American Socialists have done a good job of renaming the right. The only hope is to start our own country...MT1
Is that like a pick up for hillbillies? Think the word you were looking for was hiccups.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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Compared to all other modern countries, I think the U.S. is still the most conservative. With that said, there does seem to be some confusion lately in how conservatism should be defined.

My definition of a conservative is someone who favors economic freedom, but often wants restrictions on social freedoms and personal behaviors that violate "traditional values". If you want economic AND social freedom, then you're a libertarian, not a conservative.

Unfortunately, libertarians don't have a strong voice in America. The Republicans tend to favor the conservative mindset as I defined it above, while the Democrats favor a liberal mindset which includes social and personal freedom, but advocates restrictions on economic freedom.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:03 PM
 
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Compared to all other modern countries, I think the U.S. is still the most conservative. With that said, there does seem to be some confusion lately in how conservatism should be defined.

My definition of a conservative is someone who favors economic freedom, but often wants restrictions on social freedoms and personal behaviors that violate "traditional values". If you want economic AND social freedom, then you're a libertarian, not a conservative.

Unfortunately, libertarians don't have a strong voice in America. The Republicans tend to favor the conservative mindset as I defined it above, while the Democrats favor a liberal mindset which includes social and personal freedom, but advocates restrictions on economic freedom.
OK . . those are your definitions of persons, but how do you define conservative and liberal countries?
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:07 PM
 
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OK . . those are your definitions of persons, but how do you define conservative and liberal countries?
I think it's impossible to do without a reference point. Among modern countries, the U.S. is more on the conservative side, both socially and economically, but compared to all of the countries in the world, the U.S. is liberal.

Sorry, but I guess I don't have a clear answer, and from what I've seen in the other responses, no one can truly provide a definitive answer to the question.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Texas ..
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:13 PM
 
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Texas ..
ha.. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, although I almost said "Mississippi".

Texans have long held onto the idea that they can secede at any time, so if there's a conservative "country" within the U.S., it's probably Texas.
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