I think Obama is starting to get worried! (McCain, Congress, legal)
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No. All Americans should be able to see his long-form birth certificate so we know where he was actually born. It's so easy for Obama to produce it, but he won't do it. What's he hiding? He's hiding that he was born in Kenya and not a natural born U.S. citizen, therefore he cannot serve as POTUS.
You keep thinking that. Eight years from now you will still be spouting that nonsense on this forum.
The note was published in 1988, and thus the author did not have any motivation to mold and shape her arguments or conclusions to benefit the candidacy of Barack Obama.
According to the author, the issue of whether a person born of one American and one alien parent qualifies as "natural born" has never been resolved. In a related footnote (number 5), the author considers the question of whether it matters which parent (Mom or Dad) is the American, and which is the alien parent, suggesting an answer that may not be pleasing to "the One":
"Whether, in cases of one citizen and one alien parent, the father or the mother is the alien might also affect natural born citizen status since, under American naturalization statutes in effect around the time of the Constitutional Convention, the citizenship of the child depended on the citizenship and residency of the father. See Act of Mar. 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104.
The American naturalization acts were based on earlier British statutes. See, e.g., An act ... For naturalizing ... the children of natural born subjects of the crown, 4 Geo. 2, ch. 21 (1731).
The Supreme Court in Montana v. Kennedy concluded that the Naturalization Act of 1802, the controlling statute at the time of the petitioner's birth, made children born abroad citizens only if their fathers were or had been citizens. Montana v. Kennedy, 366 U.S. 308, 310-11 (1961). Until 1934, citizenship of the mother could not be passed on to her foreign-born children. See Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815, 826 (1971)."
If he's getting worried it's because he's learning of the Bush/Cheney mistakes that have been hidden behind the veil of secrecy.
That has worried the hell out of me as well.
Pretty soon Obama or Rahm Emanuel is going to unearth a copy of the deed to this country with the Devil's name on it next to Dick Cheney's while rooting through the White House file cabinets............
No, he was born in a U.S. state in 1961. Therefore, he was and is a native-born American. It did not matter then, nor now, who is parents were or where they were born. Get up off of this. Damn!
Not according to legal precedent he isn't. Read the above case law. Obama's status is from his father, not his mother.
Not according to legal precedent he isn't. Read the above case law. Obama's status is from his father, not his mother.
It doesn't apply, as he was physically born here. How do illegal aliens show up 10 feet inside the US border and have kids who are automatic US citizens, but these rules do not apply to the future President who was born on US soil to a mother born on US soil?
US CODE: TITLE 8
CHAPTER 12 SUBCHAPTER 3 PART I
§ 1401
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:
Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22,
may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;
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It doesn't actually matter where Obama was born. Regardless of what his status was in 1961, he is a natural born citizen in 2008 and will be in 2009 when he is inaugurated the 44th President of the United States.
US CODE: TITLE 8
CHAPTER 12 SUBCHAPTER 3 PART I
§ 1401
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:
Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22,
may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;
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It doesn't actually matter where Obama was born. Regardless of what his status was in 1961, he is a natural born citizen in 2008 and will be in 2009 when he is inaugurated the 44th President of the United States.
Wrong! The law that was in affect as of 1961 is the law that applies.
Wrong! The law that was in affect as of 1961 is the law that applies.
God, where did you get your law degree? Better yet, who taught you how to read?
So assuming that Obama was born in Kenya, which I don't.
As of April 24, 1996
CHAPTER 1-NATIONALITY AT BIRTH AND BY COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION
301 NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH
SEC. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;
Game, set and match!
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