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Old 11-16-2008, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Originally Posted by minibrings View Post
Funny the Qu'ran has similar passages when a woman is widowed.. but the basic intent is the woman needs to be cared for as she would otherwise starve (as well).
taht was the basis for polygamy in the muslim faith too. many men died in war, so the mutliple women were forced to marry a single man.

of course this made sense in the past, when society was based soley on agriculture and human strength was important. thats basically why they needed a man and farmers wanted boys and sons
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Old 11-16-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Coldest Place
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yet agian another stupid person making another stupid post! In canada and me personally, we are not persecuting gays!! i have tonnes of gay friends and what they do is their own business! if they love someone, then how is that different then a straight person loving someone??

so is everyone clear on where i stand? can you stop the "homophobe" and "persecution" alarm now?? buti know you wont. why? because saying your being "persecuted" and "oppressed" gives you this ability in our modern society to complain as much as you want and try and get as many benefits out of it as possible?/

yet again anotehr ignorant perosn did not understand a word of what i said in my obviously clear posts before.

i never though homosexuality is a "recent trend". what i said was simply that it was largely (although not completely) the fault of the community as a whole (the gay community) for the rapid spread of AIDS through thier irresponsible activities of unrpotected sex, drug use and multiple partners!

simple as that. end of story. people stop brigning up "persecuted crap", stop saying "how is it different then straight marriage" stop.

the issue at hand was explaining what the "gay community" or "lifestyle" is and was. then it moved onto AIDs. and i gave a very intelligent answer based on facts, about how AIDS spread, the "lifestyles" traits as was kinda stereotyped in general. of course it can never be 100% accurate. some gay will say "hey i dont do taht" or "hey i dont do taht but i do that" so its impossible to make an accurate assesment of individual cases..

the numbers in an overall statistic often conflcit when you do personal questions. anyways i hoped that cleared something up

now please people, can you make intelligetn responses or criticisms to what i wrote. istead of the garbage that campign jsut threw up on this thread?

seriously people run out of arguemnts and have nothing intelligent to say, so they trya nd write an attack post. obviously campings failed cause hes an idiot and couldnt even do that right
Irony overload detected!

I think you need to reread your own post, with the same weather eye you use against your opponents. I won't hold my breath.

Also, if you're going to bash people about intelligence, you ought to use a spell checker, and capital letters at the beginning of sentences.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:02 PM
 
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please giveyourself a round of applause. youve maanaged to twists the bibles words into promoting "gay love". do you understand that two women and two men can have a deep relationship without having sex? do you? i know thats hard for you to understand but its possible!!

also thanks for making blatant stereotypes about men "hating gay men but wanting to watch women". im glad your deep thinking allowed you to come up with that.. the fact is i dont enjoy watching two women, im not into that.

From what I've seen and heard of the womens studies course.. nor would i want to... so now that youve made some stereotyps??? can I??? lesbians are bascically just women, who cant get guys. they are either ugly, fat, or butch, and have had a bad expirience once so now they are put off that sex entirely. instead of understanding both sexes have thier good and bad, and that a girl in a relationship could hurt a guy jsut as much as the other way around, they defy reality and run to "the only epople who they can relate to".

look k, no one here wants to see any of your lesbian love k, stop thinking so highly of yourself. its gross and your jsut mad cause you could never really please a man so instead you hid eunder the guide of being a lesbian.

anyways shouldnt you be at your women studies class?? or protesting on campus against the objectifying of women?
Wow.

You don't have much of a sense of humour do you? Or the ability to detect "irony"?
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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OUCH, If clave means what you think it means the following verse would be very painful!
2 Samuel 23:10
He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.

I have heard of some strange bedroom desires but the day someone does that to a sword I will have heard it all!


Funny that you should use a verse talking about god approving murder and mayhem.

It just goes to show that people interpret words in the bible differently to suit what they want.

You know, like the word that many people use for "homosexual" in various more recent translations of the bible, used to be translated as "masterbator" or "lazy" before it became really popular to use Scripture to bash homosexuals.


GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
he attacked and killed Philistines until his hand got tired and stuck to his sword. So the LORD won an impressive victory that day. The army returned to Eleazar, but they only returned to strip the dead.
King James Bible
He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.
American King James Version
He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand stuck to the sword: and the LORD worked a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.
American Standard Version
He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword; and Jehovah wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to take spoil.
Bible in Basic English
He was with David and went on fighting the Philistines till his hand became tired and stiff from gripping his sword: and that day the Lord gave a great salvation, and the people came back after him only to take the goods of the Philistines.
Douay-Rheims Bible
He arose and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave to the sword; and Jehovah wrought a great deliverance that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.
English Revised Version
He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.
Webster's Bible Translation
He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand adhered to the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to plunder. World English Bible
He arose, and struck the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand froze to the sword; and Yahweh worked a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to take spoil.

Last edited by Ceist; 11-16-2008 at 05:22 PM..
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:13 PM
 
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yet agian another stupid person making another stupid post! In canada and me personally, we are not persecuting gays!! i have tonnes of gay friends and what they do is their own business! if they love someone, then how is that different then a straight person loving someone??

so is everyone clear on where i stand? can you stop the "homophobe" and "persecution" alarm now?? buti know you wont. why? because saying your being "persecuted" and "oppressed" gives you this ability in our modern society to complain as much as you want and try and get as many benefits out of it as possible?/

yet again anotehr ignorant perosn did not understand a word of what i said in my obviously clear posts before.

i never though homosexuality is a "recent trend". what i said was simply that it was largely (although not completely) the fault of the community as a whole (the gay community) for the rapid spread of AIDS through thier irresponsible activities of unrpotected sex, drug use and multiple partners!

simple as that. end of story. people stop brigning up "persecuted crap", stop saying "how is it different then straight marriage" stop.

the issue at hand was explaining what the "gay community" or "lifestyle" is and was. then it moved onto AIDs. and i gave a very intelligent answer based on facts, about how AIDS spread, the "lifestyles" traits as was kinda stereotyped in general. of course it can never be 100% accurate. some gay will say "hey i dont do taht" or "hey i dont do taht but i do that" so its impossible to make an accurate assesment of individual cases..

the numbers in an overall statistic often conflcit when you do personal questions. anyways i hoped that cleared something up

now please people, can you make intelligetn responses or criticisms to what i wrote. istead of the garbage that campign jsut threw up on this thread?

seriously people run out of arguemnts and have nothing intelligent to say, so they trya nd write an attack post. obviously campings failed cause hes an idiot and couldnt even do that right
I'm sorry, are you calling me stupid? That would be strange, since I certainly did not call you names...see, it is against the TOS to do such a thing. Come to think of it, I think there may be something about that in your bible?

At anyrate, I was not responding to your treatise on AIDS
I was responding to this;

look k, no one here wants to see any of your lesbian love k, stop thinking so highly of yourself. its gross and your jsut mad cause you could never really please a man so instead you hid eunder the guide of being a lesbian.


My question does still hold, however.....why would gay marriage threaten you? You now say you don't care who sleeps with whom...just as long as they don't get married? You say point to promiscuity as the perveyor of AIDS yet shun the idea of marriage?
Where is your consistancy?
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:14 PM
 
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It's amazing how the pro-gay crowd twist Scripture to justify their lifestyle.
It's amazing how the anti-gay fundy crowd twist Scripture to justify their bigotry.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:16 PM
 
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yet agian another stupid person making another stupid post!
seriously people run out of arguemnts and have nothing intelligent to say, so they trya nd write an attack post. obviously campings failed cause hes an idiot and couldnt even do that right
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:14 PM
 
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Dag-GONE! 457 posts in less than three days! Are people fascinated with this subject or WHAT?

Here is my homosexual lifestyle....quite literally:

Let's see, I truly....and I mean this with the utmost sincerity....I've never had sex with a woman, and I can't even remember when it was that I last had sex with a man. I know it has been....and again, I mean this with the utmost sincerity.....it has been years. I don't even know how many years, really.

Some "gay lifestyle" I'm leading, huh?

I don't drink...no wait, that's smoking. I don't smoke...anymore. And I don't....er, no, wait a second...scratch that. I was going to say I don't swear, but damn it - unfortunately, I do. And I DO drink once in a great big blue moon. I don't go to bars or gay-pride events. I don't hang out in porno shops. I don't do drugs. I don't pick up tricks....although that should be obvious considering what I said above.

I shop for food. I sleep in my bed. I sometimes go days without shaving. I use too much toilet paper...but hey, a guy's gotta stay clean, you know?

Heck, I don't know. What else do you guys want to know? I mean, since you're all so fascinated by it.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Eastern time zone
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It's amazing how the pro-gay crowd twist Scripture to justify their lifestyle.
Hey, it works for the evangelicals.
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Irony overload detected!

I think you need to reread your own post, with the same weather eye you use against your opponents. I won't hold my breath.

Also, if you're going to bash people about intelligence, you ought to use a spell checker, and capital letters at the beginning of sentences.
because the fact that i type super fast and dont really give a crap about spelling reflects my intelligence??

lets give an example of a 30 year old genuis whos in a rush, and so he doesnt really look at what hes typing because hes preoccupied and has more important things to do.

then theres some idiot who writes thi BS statement, doesnt even read what the other posted, but uses spell check (and everyone knows that the people who tkae the time to use spell check are in fact 20% smarter its a fact!!!).

so whos smarter?? last time I checked spell checker has no correlation to a persons intelligence. the fact that i dont give a damn since this is just a forum (although i truly do love the debates here) and not some essay I have to hand in.

Dont like my spelling? or the fact i dont use capitals?? dont respond then!! ignore, dont add me to your friends list i dont care. im going to keep doing it cause it really doesnt matter in the whole scene of things..
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