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Originally Posted by bibit612
I guess the difference is (and I have to check this) is that the state of Oregon has legally considered him a man, so his marriage to his wife would be considered a heterosexual marriage and thus be legal by the Feds. He can move to any state he wants to, and can file his federal return as MFJ, unlike the MA or CT married same-gender couples who have to file separately (either single or HH) on their 1040.
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Oh, I've got it. The Mass married gay couples file married on the state tax, single on the fed tax, and this particular couple files married on all forms.
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Originally Posted by bibit612
I believe some people oppose what he did because there is not enough data to support that his taking of testosterone prior to the pregnancy will not affect the children that he bears later on in life. Barring any moral opinions on overstepping the lines or doing what he wants with his body, some are of the opinion that he could possibly be endangering the health of his offspring(s).
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They could be right. If only we could prevent crack addicted women from having kids, since they are definitely endangering their offspring.
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Originally Posted by LovelyinLa
He's making a mockery of those who identify as transgendered, he forces the realization that a woman who cuts off her breasts and grows a mustache, is and always will be a woman.
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This has got me interested in what exactly a transgender person is, what qualifies someone as a man or woman, etc....
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Originally Posted by PG77
There is no such thing as a pregnant man.
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Originally Posted by NVplumber
Personally, I find this a tad disturbing. This person is not a man. Men do not give birth. This is playing around with the laws of nature. Nature does not make mistakes. We are born the way we are because thats the natural order of things. To surgically alter oneself into a different gender and keep the biological functions of the original template  . Methinks that modern medicine has gone over the edge here. |
I definitely would have thought that before a woman would be considered a man she would no longer be able to have children. I realize that for people undergoing sex changes, it is a process and at some point, the person is kind of going to be half and half, to some extent, for lack of better way to express it, but really, if a woman is going to become a man, and she hasn't got all the surgeries done yet, the tubes should be tied before she can be considered a man, or a hysterectomy or something.
Men do not have children. It's getting a little out of control here. You cannot have it all. "I want to be a man, but I also want to have kids, etc...."
I don't know, to me this is over the line. Just because "he" could, doesn't mean "he" should.
I just don't see how "he" is actually considered a man. "he" seems more like a female cross dresser at this point.
Men don't have babies!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by charolastra00
His gender is male, his sex is female. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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Obviously something is hard to grasp here. If I were a man, and a pregnant man came into the restroom, sorry but I'd be like WTF!
And if I was a woman, and an obviously pregnant person came into the bathroom that looked like a man, I'd be like, "She looks like a man, but she's got to be a woman to be pregnant".
We all have our freedoms, and I am pretty laid back type of person, but a line has been crossed here.
Oregon has to be looking at their law at this point. This person should not be defined as male.
Something is just wrong with this.
I am all for some kids having a mommy & daddy, a mommy & mommy, or a daddy & daddy.
But a kid with a mommy & daddy and the daddy is the mommy? That is f'd up.
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