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Old 11-22-2008, 04:01 PM
 
Location: UK.
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I will give an example of the homosexual mentality.

I was woking on a childrens rights campaign against child abuse. There were many gay members who initially were supportive of helping the children.

Once they found out I was a born again christian, the harassment ensued. Every conversation about protecting children ended up going in some gay direction. I asked them to put aside their sexual interests in order to work for childrens welfare. But they could not stop, they continually harassed, not only me, but my wife.

I had never once said anything negative about homosexuality during this time, they simply could not allow their burning hatred for born again chrisitans to chill out long enough to help the children. The movement imploded, yet some of those members still harass me to this day.
I wonder what could have triggered the burning hatred you talk of? Christians being too kind and supportive over the years, maybe?
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:03 PM
 
Location: UK.
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they already had equal rights in california, albeit separate but equal. They have an idealogical agenda to force everyone to accept them at the expense of free speech and democratic voting processes.
Just like black people in the 1960s you mean?

Incidentally, I was beginning to feel some sympathy for you, JGY as I left this thread, but what do I find on the next one I looked at - you dropping your self-righteous guard and using the word 'deviant' for gay people. Not very nice of you, is it?

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But it is not funny when issues like this are being used to change our laws and our traditions to appease a deviant sector of society.

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Old 11-22-2008, 05:49 PM
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Hey, I just call it as I see it.

And to equate blacks with gays is reprehensible, blacks were born black, gays were not.
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Old 11-22-2008, 07:52 PM
 
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Hey, I just call it as I see it.

And to equate blacks with gays is reprehensible, blacks were born black, gays were not.
However, all studies have shown that sexual orientation is determined at birth. If you could accept this, would you still find it "reprehensible" to equate your attitude towards gays with the attitude towards blacks in the 1960s?
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:00 PM
 
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Hey, I just call it as I see it.

And to equate blacks with gays is reprehensible, blacks were born black, gays were not.
I wonder how many straight people would say that they weren't "born straight", and that being heterosexual was a conscious decision they made.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It is very simple, they want their sexuality to trump everything--tradition, law, religion. They demand acceptance, even at the expense of free speech.

Everything else is just a matter of procedure.
You seem to be speaking with the self assurance of an insider.

I guess you're gay then?
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:33 PM
 
Location: California
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New word - agains't....?

You learn somethin new every day from people with educated minds...
Sorry, is that the best you can do? I remember kids doing that in the 3rd grade when they couldn't come up with anything better. Your so smart.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:37 AM
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You seem to be speaking with the self assurance of an insider.

I guess you're gay then?

Yes, I am kind of an insider, as I have wrestled with same sex attraction issues at various points in my life.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:40 AM
 
Location: UK.
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Hey, I just call it as I see it.

And to equate blacks with gays is reprehensible, blacks were born black, gays were not.
That isn't the educated opinion though, is it?

Anyway, even if being gay is a choice, you STILL have no right to criticise that choice in a free society. What do you want to see in your country... another Soviet-style regime that used to send gays to labour camps, or pretended we didn't exist in the first place?

That's the Christian way to deal with minorities, then, according to you?
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:40 AM
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However, all studies have shown that sexual orientation is determined at birth. If you could accept this, would you still find it "reprehensible" to equate your attitude towards gays with the attitude towards blacks in the 1960s?


But this is simply not so, the studies are not in agreement and on top of that, some of the studies seem to indicate a combination of factors both nature and nurture.
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