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Old 11-26-2008, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What do you think would happen if smokers rose up and demanded the right to smoke where we want? Would the public put up with it? 20% of the US population smokes..yet this group of people are discriminated against every day..yet noone seems to care...why?
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:35 PM
 
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What do you think would happen if smokers rose up and demanded the right to smoke where we want? Would the public put up with it? 20% of the US population smokes..yet this group of people are discriminated against every day..yet noone seems to care...why?
Smoking negatively affects the health of those immediately around the smoker. That's why it's restricted.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Here
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Haha. Well, let's see, apparently second-hand smoke is hazardous to one's health, and so smokers can harm others with their practice.
The sight of two dudes making out could cause me to vomit which in turn could cause me to choke to death.


(Note: this situation does not apply if it were two hot lesbians making out )
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:43 PM
 
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The sight of two dudes making out could cause me to vomit
You mean like this?

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Old 11-26-2008, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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What do you think would happen if smokers rose up and demanded the right to smoke where we want? Would the public put up with it? 20% of the US population smokes..yet this group of people are discriminated against every day..yet noone seems to care...why?
If someone is around second hand smoke alot, it still has the likelihood of giving them cancer as first hand smoke does. It's not discrimination to set up designated places for smokers to smoke. Legalizing gay marriage and gay rights doesn't infringe on anyone else's freedom. Smoking around other people who may not want to be around smoking infringes on someone else's freedom because it is harmful to one's health.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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Individuals who spend large amounts of time around smokers have a 20-30% increase in the likelihood of developing lung cancer, which for the baseline (non-smoking) population is under 1%. This turns out to be a rate that is still less than, or right at, 1%. Being exposed to second hand smoke on an occasional basis while out in public has negligible risk factors for healthy individual (now, for people suffering from asthma or other respiratory ailments, the potential effects are far more serious). The real issue I have with smoking bans is that the government is regulating behavior in private establishments, and in some places inside people's homes. That's completely unacceptable, if people can't make responsible decisions about what business to patronize/work at, they have far more serious problems then exposure to second-hand smoke.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Individuals who spend large amounts of time around smokers have a 20-30% increase in the likelihood of developing lung cancer, which for the baseline (non-smoking) population is under 1%. This turns out to be a rate that is still less than, or right at, 1%. Being exposed to second hand smoke on an occasional basis while out in public has negligible risk factors for healthy individual (now, for people suffering from asthma or other respiratory ailments, the potential effects are far more serious). The real issue I have with smoking bans is that the government is regulating behavior in private establishments, and in some places inside people's homes. That's completely unacceptable, if people can't make responsible decisions about what business to patronize/work at, they have far more serious problems then exposure to second-hand smoke.
What about toll booth workers, auto mechanics and DMV testers? How many of theses people suffer shortened life spans from Carbon Monoxide poising from working around cars all day? In addition, how many people are killed by drunk drivers? In the United States the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) estimates that 17,941 people died in 2006 in "alcohol-related" collisions, representing 41 percent of total traffic deaths in the US. Over 500,000 people were injured in alcohol-related accidents in the US in 2003. (source Wiki). Yet is perfectly ok to drink in bars, restaurants, airplanes and sporting events. Do you see a double standard here?
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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What about toll booth workers, auto mechanics and DMV testers? How many of theses people suffer shortened life spans from Carbon Monoxide poising from working around cars all day? In addition, how many people are killed by drunk drivers? In the United States the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) estimates that 17,941 people died in 2006 in "alcohol-related" collisions, representing 41 percent of total traffic deaths in the US. Over 500,000 people were injured in alcohol-related accidents in the US in 2003. (source Wiki). Yet is perfectly ok to drink in bars, restaurants, airplanes and sporting events. Do you see a double standard here?
Drunk driving is illegal, so it is punished if someone does it. People can drink in bars and restaurants, although the onus is on them to drink responsibly. Toll booth workers etc. may have a greater risk of Carbon Monoxide poisening and a chance of a shortened lifespan, although they also choose to work in an environment that produces those effects. It would be as if a nonsmoker were to decide to be around smokers alot of the time, while they are smoking.
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Old 11-26-2008, 05:11 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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What do you think would happen if smokers rose up and demanded the right to smoke where we want? Would the public put up with it? 20% of the US population smokes..yet this group of people are discriminated against every day..yet noone seems to care...why?
I'm sorry but I have allergies. Many smokers that I've personally encountered do not care how their smoke affects my breathing. I am totally against lifting any indoor smoking bans.
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Old 11-26-2008, 05:21 PM
 
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What do you think would happen if smokers rose up and demanded the right to smoke where we want? Would the public put up with it? 20% of the US population smokes..yet this group of people are discriminated against every day..yet noone seems to care...why?
This has got to be the stupidest post I have ever seen on this website. Somebody really needs to give the OP a clue...
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