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Old 12-01-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Trumps,Hiltons,etc can afford it after all its not like they contribute .
Really? Should I head down to the Las Vegas Hilton and ask them just how many hundreds of jobs they're not contributing to society?

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Old 12-01-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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So...what's wrong with requiring people to pay their way in life?

I missed the part of the Constitution that said the government was responsible for redistributing my property to another...
What's wrong with the affluent paying their fair-share so that the needy are given a safety net (they're not being made whole - just prevented from living in abject poverty).

Guess you are going to have to get used to parting with some of your wealth, MamaBee....
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:42 PM
 
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What's wrong with the affluent paying their fair-share so that the needy are given a safety net (they're not being made whole - just prevented from living in abject poverty).

Guess you are going to have to get used to parting with some of your wealth, MamaBee....
By the exact same measure, it could be surmised that you're wanting to get something for nothing. Kind of a sponge.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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By the exact same measure, it could be surmised that you're wanting to get something for nothing. Kind of a sponge.
I would guess that he's not in poverty since he has easy internet access.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:49 PM
 
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I would guess that he's not in poverty since he has easy internet access.
That could be. But people who have top-end cable TV (and 4 TVs in the house), cars, computers and kitchens full of food are usually the ones who claim they're poor. Poverty is often defined as "Anything less than having everything I want."
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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If y'all knew how most people abuse the medicaid system (including demanding prescriptions for over-the-counter medicines so they can use their 3 dollars to buy cigs instead; showing up in the ED instead of their designated doctor's office b/c they 'don't want to wait 2 hours,' etc), you wouldn't have too much trouble with this.
If we abolished every program that had a few abusers, there would be no roads and no schools and no Pentagon. Be careful how yo throw around the word "most". Your wild and out-of-control brush is tarring an awful lot of people, but of course you can throw stones, you've never padded an expense account or ordered anything by mail order to avoid paying sales tax, or neglected to mention a casual earning on your income tax. You're right in there with "most people", buster.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The rich dont serve in the military -
I will dispute your comment above - I personally know a number of "rich" people who are serving (and dying - Pat Tillman)

You are wrong
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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What's wrong with the affluent paying their fair-share so that the needy are given a safety net (they're not being made whole - just prevented from living in abject poverty).

Guess you are going to have to get used to parting with some of your wealth, MamaBee....
Wealth? I am far from wealthy. If you fail to see what's wrong with government-sanctioned theft so the "needy" have a safety net there's no getting through to you.

Who is to decide what is a fair share? Who is to decide who has to much and who needs more?

I will not "get used to" theft of my property, be it from my government or a common criminal.

"I swear -- by my life and my love of it -- that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:21 PM
 
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I swear -- by my life and my love of it -- that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
You need to go live on a mountaintop in Tibet. There is no place else that will suit you...

And for all you Jeffersonian Patriots out there...
Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, &c., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings.
-- Thomas Jefferson on taxing the rich [Letter to Kosciusko, 1811]
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:45 PM
 
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It is very likely if you are rich, you are probably utilizing more of the roads, bridges and sewers with more and larger vehicles and houses with multiple bathrooms than a poorer person. You are most likely spewing out more pollution from your cars, planes and boats. Pay your fair share into the country that allowed you to attain and keep your wealth.
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