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Somehow, it is even more unacceptable to many folks than the rest of the sexual/***** group, don't ask me why.
Yeah, I guess people don't like to acknowledge something that's different in any way. Also, I think there are some Christians who disapprove because it might lead to the person failing to be fruitful and multiply and all when they (presumably) have that ability, and they believe that God wants us to have children if we can. I'm not sure about that; I read it somewhere, but that might be an opinion shared by very few.
Transexuals are clearly different from homosexuals. Yet they easily can clear the hurdles that homosexuals can't. They can get married. They can adopt. They can do anything a regular man or woman can do.
Not if it's to the same sex.
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The only problem IMO with transexuals is when they want to blatantly display sexuality. Like a chick that now is a dude who wants to wear makeup, lipstick and earrings with his/her beard. I would not tolerate that kind of behavior as an employer. Decide what sex you want to be and present yourself as such. Work is not a place for fantasy behaviors to be carried out. Its a place to come in and do the job you were hired to do without distractions and weird behavior. I fired a guy for weird behavior who was not a transexual and not gay, so you can believe I would give equal rights to transexuals or GLB's who think weird behavior at work is fine when they have had it made clear to them it is not.
Unfortunately, because of society in general, that might have to be a reality for some employers. People might have to tone down their expression, much like some places have strict dress codes because of the way workers have to present themselves to the public. Some things might simply be bad for business. Someone feel free to disagree with me if I'm thinking this through.
Yeah, I guess it would depend on when they met their significant other.
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Unfortunately, because of society in general, that might have to be a reality for some employers. People might have to tone down their expression, much like some places have strict dress codes because of the way workers have to present themselves to the public. Some things might simply be bad for business. Someone feel free to disagree with me if I'm thinking this through.
The guy I fired violated dress code REGULARLY. He thought his idea of style should be accepted as okay. Collars turned up. Wearing bike racing shoes with chrome on them. At least a dozen other things that would make customers do a double take when they saw him. He received plenty of opportunities to comply with what was expected but demanded that he be able to break the dress codes because he saw something in some fashion magazine. The day I let him go I suggested he apply for work with fashion magazines.
The guy I fired violated dress code REGULARLY. He thought his idea of style should be accepted as okay. Collars turned up. Wearing bike racing shoes with chrome on them. At least a dozen other things that would make customers do a double take when they saw him. He received plenty of opportunities to comply with what was expected but demanded that he be able to break the dress codes because he saw something in some fashion magazine. The day I let him go I suggested he apply for work with fashion magazines.
And none of that has anything to do with G, L, B, T, or any of the rest of the alphabet - it has to do with personal cluelessness.
And none of that has anything to do with G, L, B, T, or any of the rest of the alphabet - it has to do with personal cluelessness.
I'd have fired him, too.
All I would ask of a transgender is to pick either the male or female dress code and stick to it (no switching back and forth ). So long as they could handle that and the rest of their job, I'd have no problem with them.
All I would ask of a transgender is to pick either the male or female dress code and stick to it (no switching back and forth ). So long as they could handle that and the rest of their job, I'd have no problem with them.
That sounds reasonable to me. I think it's just something that has to be done in a work environment, something that everyone would have to adhere to.
I disagree that the "gay community" should not include transsexuals and transgendered people in general in their crusade simply because they have less support. If I recall my modest knowledge of the history, the women's rights movement was loath to include lesbians. Was that a good business/marketing decision (using the adjectives broadly)? I guess so, but I don't know how they could've slept at night. I think it would be wrong for all GLBTQ individuals not to stand together (let's please try not to forget the "Q"!) It's an incredibly diverse group, of course, but I think we share common goals. And if we don't show solidarity and acceptance of each other without qualifications, how are we really going to start seeing that from the rest of society?
The reason is simple. GLBQ is "private" and unless one chooses to make it known to everyone,it is a very private thing just like all sexual relations are.
T is out in the open. Very, very hard to hide. In areas where there is high customer opposition to such lifestyles, GLBQ as long as they aren't too flamboyant will not cost the employer any customers. Transsexuals will cost the business customers, as it is obvious and impossible to hide.
In very open states like MA or CA, this doesn't matter. In more divided or conservative states, this could matter a great deal to the employer.
The reason is simple. GLBQ is "private" and unless one chooses to make it known to everyone,it is a very private thing just like all sexual relations are.
T is out in the open. Very, very hard to hide. In areas where there is high customer opposition to such lifestyles, GLBQ as long as they aren't too flamboyant will not cost the employer any customers. Transsexuals will cost the business customers, as it is obvious and impossible to hide.
In very open states like MA or CA, this doesn't matter. In more divided or conservative states, this could matter a great deal to the employer.
But not everyone is like the guy TXboomerang described. There are plenty of people out there you wouldn't guess are transsexual. So it is not necessarily out in the open. It certainly isn't impossible to hide.
But not everyone is like the guy TXboomerang described. There are plenty of people out there you wouldn't guess are transsexual. So it is not necessarily out in the open. It certainly isn't impossible to hide.
I know transgenders who certainly can "hide" it.
As far as transsexuals, perhaps it's different because they haven't actually gone through the hormone therapy or the surgery. They are just dressing like the opposite sex, sometimes only in private.
In Massachusetts, you'd never be able to fire someone because of how they dressed, or who they are, etc., or you'd be sued big-time. Of course, the company would always pretend that the person was fired because of "mistakes" made on the job or something. Like, "duh, sure, buddy".
I don't discriminate against mutants. I just ignore them.
You are asking to be ignored by a lot of people then.
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