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Old 12-02-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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Wow, just when you think that so many priests in the US Church are liberal theologians or homosexuals/pedophiles we find one that is moral and courageous.

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Catholic priest urges parishioners who voted for Obama to go to confession - State/Nation/World - Belleville News Democrat (http://www.bnd.com/news/state/story/559451.html - broken link)

Father Joseph Illo, pastor of St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Modesto, Calif., has told parishioners in a homily and in a follow-up letter that if they voted for Barack Obama, they should consider going to confession because of the president-elect's pro-abortion position.

"If you are one of the 54 percent of Catholics who voted for a pro-abortion candidate, you were clear on his position and you knew the gravity of the question, I urge you to go to confession before receiving communion. Don't risk losing your state of grace by receiving sacrilegiously," Illo wrote in a letter dated Nov. 21.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:14 PM
 
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As well they should. they voted for a guy that supports that which the church considers evil (abortion).

If you want to be part of the club, you should live by the rules.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Wow, just when you think that so many priests in the US Church are liberal theologians or homosexuals/pedophiles we find one that is moral and courageous.

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Sounds like to me this priest needs to smacked around a few times, he's no better than any other human, the child molester. If the church allowed him to send out that letter, then they just crossed the line of "seperation of church and state". Now the whole catholic church system should be made to pay taxes to include back taxes. The idiots!
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Well, that's enough evidence for me. Revoke the Roman Catholic Church's 501(c)(3) status and require back payments of income taxes with interest. If it fails to pay within 48 hours, I say seize its assets and auction them off.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I personally don't see anything wrong with this, as it IS against the Catholic faith to hold a pro-abortion stance. Now, I'm all for abortion (at all stages and with no restrictions), but I respect other's opinions and religious feelings.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I personally don't see anything wrong with this, as it IS against the Catholic faith to hold a pro-abortion stance. Now, I'm all for abortion (at all stages and with no restrictions), but I respect other's opinions and religious feelings.
I don't really care what the Catholic faith says, but it's against IRS tax code for a non-profit entity to condemn or endorse a politician.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Well, that's enough evidence for me. Revoke the Roman Catholic Church's 501(c)(3) status and require back payments of income taxes with interest. If it fails to pay within 48 hours, I say seize its assets and auction them off.
I like the way you think . There job is to teach the Bible, and "they do very little of that anyway", nothing else should be coming out of thier pie holes . God gave one thing to man that we need to learn to use without exception (FREE WILL). So for all you churches out there, (SHUT UP)!
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:39 PM
 
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I don't really care what the Catholic faith says, but it's against IRS tax code for a non-profit entity to condemn or endorse a politician.
Not true. It just "may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates." That first part is where the LDS is in hot water.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:43 PM
 
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This sore loser's church will be paying taxes from 2009 onward (or, in a just world it would be) in exchange for an ignorant, spiteful outburst. Electing PaleoMcCain wouldn't have ended abortion, it only would have enabled 3rd-trimester ABs and a host of new horrors. There go X-tens of thousands of dollars off to the godless government every year, and for what?

The Republican Party has got to cut the strings with the Religious Right.

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Not true. It just "may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates." That first part is where the LDS is in hot water.
Is that true? So this priest didnt endanger his church's tax status?
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Not true. It just "may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates." That first part is where the LDS is in hot water.
That too, but also, it may not endorse or condemn politicians.

The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt Organizations (http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=163395,00.html - broken link)
Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.
I would say that saying, "if you vote for this person, you need to come to confession" would constitute a "public statement of position ... in opposition to any candidate for public office".
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