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Old 12-04-2008, 03:31 PM
 
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Knowing full well that tax breaks for buying SUV's and ridiculous Hummers would have the Saudis jumping for joy, the government played right into their hands and so many Americans were willing patsys. Collusion involving the car manufacturers and big oil was so obvious and people were so easily sold. How stupid are people, really?

SUV TAX BREAK
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:38 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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That makes me sick. SUV owners should be taxed extra for driving around in gas guzzling vehicles. Especially since I usually see them with only a driver inside and no passengers. Plus they speed on the highways while talking on their cellphones and don't use turn signals. At least drive slower in your SUV's and obey the speed limits.

BTW I think that those drivers who get into a car accident while on the cellphone or texting, or fiddling with their GPS units ought to have higher insurance premiums.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:46 PM
 
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This moronic tax law is typical of the Bush crowd. This law meant well when first implemented but under the Bush clowns it morphed into a bloated pig of a tax drain. It not only played into the run-up in oil prices by driving up consumption of gasoline, it had the automakers focus on making the wrongest of vehicles for a world running tight on oil supplies. For years the automakers pumped out millions of 21st century Edsels, now the auto weenies are hat-in-hand before Congressional hypocrites who want to know how they'll spend $30B of OUR tax dollars to re-tool for small cars.

Welcome to America, laughing stock of the world. Again. Ain't we got fun.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:59 PM
 
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That makes me sick. SUV owners should be taxed extra for driving around in gas guzzling vehicles. Especially since I usually see them with only a driver inside and no passengers. Plus they speed on the highways while talking on their cellphones and don't use turn signals. At least drive slower in your SUV's and obey the speed limits.

BTW I think that those drivers who get into a car accident while on the cellphone or texting, or fiddling with their GPS units ought to have higher insurance premiums.
It fits the profile. Anyone stupid or irresponsible enough to buy one of those behemoths, are going to display other moronic and irresponsible behavioral traits. I'm sure there are going to be really irritated SUV owners here soon screaming about how their SUV is the center of their life and that they could not live without it. If you are disabled or have a business that requires a larger than normal vehicle, that would be an exception. I see one person per SUV more than I see a full vehicle.
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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SUV owners should be taxed extra for driving around in gas guzzling vehicles.
They are. Ever hear of fuel tax?

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Especially since I usually see them with only a driver inside and no passengers.
Not in any higher percentages than drivers of other cars.

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Plus they speed on the highways while talking on their cellphones and don't use turn signals.
Just like drivers of any other type of car.

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At least drive slower in your SUV's and obey the speed limits.
So it's OK for hybrid drivers to speed?

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BTW I think that those drivers who get into a car accident while on the cellphone or texting, or fiddling with their GPS units ought to have higher insurance premiums.
They do. Accidents have a way of inching those premiums right up.

Do you really have a clear set of double standards, or did this post just make it appear that you do?
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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This moronic tax law is typical of the Bush crowd. This law meant well when first implemented but under the Bush clowns it morphed into a bloated pig of a tax drain.
The change in the tax code was implemented in 1997 - during Clinton's tenure - and was intended to give small business owners more of a chance to grow their business.

The problem is that doctors, lawyers, real estate agents, etc., all took advantage of the change, and went out and bought these things "for business". The exploitation of the tax code had nothing to do with Bush.

I believe in giving credit (and blame) where it's due. Bush had nothing to do with this, and neither did Clinton, really. Talk to Congress if you have a problem with it - they're the ones that write the laws.

The provision could probably have been written better, to exclude the professional services sector, but neither President is "at fault" here. You're just letting blind hatred guide you, and you look foolish for it.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:13 PM
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People buy what they like, and SUV's weren't the only vehicles available.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:23 PM
 
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The change in the tax code was implemented in 1997 - during Clinton's tenure - and was intended to give small business owners more of a chance to grow their business.

The problem is that doctors, lawyers, real estate agents, etc., all took advantage of the change, and went out and bought these things "for business". The exploitation of the tax code had nothing to do with Bush.

I believe in giving credit (and blame) where it's due. Bush had nothing to do with this, and neither did Clinton, really. Talk to Congress if you have a problem with it - they're the ones that write the laws.

The provision could probably have been written better, to exclude the professional services sector, but neither President is "at fault" here. You're just letting blind hatred guide you, and you look foolish for it.

Now, now...there ya go throwing common sense into the argument.
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