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View Poll Results: Which State's Politicians Are The Most Corrupt
New York 10 6.99%
Alabama 1 0.70%
Alaska 12 8.39%
New Jersey 23 16.08%
Arkansas 1 0.70%
Arizona 0 0%
California 1 0.70%
Illinois 45 31.47%
Indiana 1 0.70%
Connecticut 0 0%
Hawaii 1 0.70%
Florida 4 2.80%
Louisiana 21 14.69%
Massachusetts 4 2.80%
Michigan 2 1.40%
Mississippi 1 0.70%
Nevada 1 0.70%
New Mexico 0 0%
Ohio 0 0%
Texas 6 4.20%
Virginia 0 0%
Tennessee 1 0.70%
North Carolina 2 1.40%
Pennsylvania 1 0.70%
Other, please post. 4 2.80%
Not Sure 1 0.70%
Voters: 143. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-10-2008, 04:13 PM
 
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LOUISIANA is the correct answer, according to this analysis of federal justice departmnet records:

Corporate Crime Reporter: Most Corrupt States in the Nation
Very interesting reading! Rep point for looking up the link instead of just guessing like I did!
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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LOUISIANA is the correct answer, according to this analysis of federal justice departmnet records:

Corporate Crime Reporter: Most Corrupt States in the Nation
You'll never truly know....maybe Louisiana just has the dumbest because, they got caught the most....lol. Seriously though, if you read through that entire article it states (no pun intended) that the statistics are based on federal convictions only and do not include any one that may have been convicted by the state.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:43 PM
 
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I still say New Jersey should be leading the poll. Illinois is a close second.

Did you ever hear of a Superior Court transcript go missing, before it could be typed in a legal malpractice case against a high level Supreme Court Attorney Ethics official. I kid you not... Everyone on up to the New Jersey governor is protecting this official and his corrupt law firm.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If people in Illinois could start getting some polititions from outside of Chicago to represent them they might have a better reputation.
No, there is corruption downstate, too. I used to live there, trust me.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:19 PM
 
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Default And the winner is...this can't be right

North Dakota tops analysis of corruption


By John Fritze, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Its largest city is legendary for machine-style politics and its elected leaders have been under investigation for years, but by one measure, Illinois is not even close to the nation's most-corrupt state.

North Dakota, it turns out, may hold that distinction instead.

Federal authorities arrested Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich Tuesday after a wiretap allegedly recorded him scheming to make money on his appointment to fill the U.S. Senate seat left vacant by President-elect Barack Obama. Blagojevich, a Democrat, ran for election in part on cleaning up after his predecessor, Republican George Ryan, who was convicted in 2006 of racketeering, bribery and extortion.

IN ILLINOIS: Obama 'appalled and disappointed' by Blagojevich arrest

"If it isn't the most corrupt state in the United States it's certainly one hell of a competitor," Robert Grant, head of the FBI's Chicago office, said Tuesday.

On a per-capita basis, however, Illinois ranks 18th for the number of public corruption convictions the federal government has won from 1998 through 2007, according to a USA TODAY analysis of Department of Justice statistics.

BLAGOJEVICH SCANDAL: News is a recycled blot on Chicagoans' pride

Louisiana, Alaska and North Dakota all fared worse than the Land of Lincoln in that analysis.

Alaska narrowly ousted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens in the election in November after he was convicted of not reporting gifts from wealthy friends. In Louisiana, Democratic Rep. William Jefferson was indicted in 2007 on racketeering and bribery charges after the FBI said it found $90,000 in marked bills in his freezer. Jefferson, who has maintained his innocence and will soon go to trial, lost his seat to a Republican this year.

But North Dakota?

Don Morrison, executive director of the non-partisan North Dakota Center for the Public Good, said it may be that North Dakotans are better at rooting out corruption when it occurs.

"Being a sparsely populated state, people know each other," he said. "We know our elected officials and so certainly to do what the governor of Illinois did is much more difficult here."

Morrison said the state has encouraged bad government practices in some cases by weakening disclosure laws. North Dakota does not require legislative or statewide candidates to disclose their campaign expenses.

The analysis does not include corruption cases handled by state law enforcement and it considers only convictions. Corruption may run more rampant in some states but go undetected.

Michael Johnston is a political science professor at Colgate University in New York — which is ranked just after Illinois for corruption convictions. Johnston, who has studied political corruption for 30 years, said places such as Illinois gain a bad reputation that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Expectations build up … and you replicate those expectations when you get to the top of the ladder," Johnston said. "It gets repeated."


North Dakota tops analysis of corruption - USATODAY.com
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:27 PM
 
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Which State's Politicians Are The Most Corrupt?
You would never believe, what state is the most corrupt based on this link.
North Dakota tops analysis of corruption - USATODAY.com
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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Illinois definitely registers with the current governor and recent governors. But Louisiana politics is and always has been slimy. It is a backwards Southern political system that thrives in corruption all the way from the New Orleans police department to parish, state, and higher officials.
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:49 PM
 
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Illinois definitely registers with the current governor and recent governors. But Louisiana politics is and always has been slimy. It is a backwards Southern political system that thrives in corruption all the way from the New Orleans police department to parish, state, and higher officials.
I agree with you about the New Orleans police department. There were videos going around the internet, highlighting NO cops still in uniform, stealing from stores after the storm hit.
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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North Dakota tops analysis of corruption


By John Fritze, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Its largest city is legendary for machine-style politics and its elected leaders have been under investigation for years, but by one measure, Illinois is not even close to the nation's most-corrupt state.

North Dakota, it turns out, may hold that distinction instead.

Federal authorities arrested Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich Tuesday after a wiretap allegedly recorded him scheming to make money on his appointment to fill the U.S. Senate seat left vacant by President-elect Barack Obama. Blagojevich, a Democrat, ran for election in part on cleaning up after his predecessor, Republican George Ryan, who was convicted in 2006 of racketeering, bribery and extortion.

IN ILLINOIS: Obama 'appalled and disappointed' by Blagojevich arrest

"If it isn't the most corrupt state in the United States it's certainly one hell of a competitor," Robert Grant, head of the FBI's Chicago office, said Tuesday.

On a per-capita basis, however, Illinois ranks 18th for the number of public corruption convictions the federal government has won from 1998 through 2007, according to a USA TODAY analysis of Department of Justice statistics.

BLAGOJEVICH SCANDAL: News is a recycled blot on Chicagoans' pride

Louisiana, Alaska and North Dakota all fared worse than the Land of Lincoln in that analysis.

Alaska narrowly ousted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens in the election in November after he was convicted of not reporting gifts from wealthy friends. In Louisiana, Democratic Rep. William Jefferson was indicted in 2007 on racketeering and bribery charges after the FBI said it found $90,000 in marked bills in his freezer. Jefferson, who has maintained his innocence and will soon go to trial, lost his seat to a Republican this year.

But North Dakota?

Don Morrison, executive director of the non-partisan North Dakota Center for the Public Good, said it may be that North Dakotans are better at rooting out corruption when it occurs.

"Being a sparsely populated state, people know each other," he said. "We know our elected officials and so certainly to do what the governor of Illinois did is much more difficult here."

Morrison said the state has encouraged bad government practices in some cases by weakening disclosure laws. North Dakota does not require legislative or statewide candidates to disclose their campaign expenses.

The analysis does not include corruption cases handled by state law enforcement and it considers only convictions. Corruption may run more rampant in some states but go undetected.

Michael Johnston is a political science professor at Colgate University in New York — which is ranked just after Illinois for corruption convictions. Johnston, who has studied political corruption for 30 years, said places such as Illinois gain a bad reputation that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Expectations build up … and you replicate those expectations when you get to the top of the ladder," Johnston said. "It gets repeated."


North Dakota tops analysis of corruption - USATODAY.com
Wow....Thanks for the link.I don't feel AS bad about our IL politicians now.
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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Wow....Thanks for the link.I don't feel AS bad about our IL politicians now.
I think once all the truth is out, Illinois will stay in the lead. But New Jersey will be close.
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