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Old 12-10-2008, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Obama has one thing going for him with regard to getting a chance to be a good president. He won the election fair and square, not appointed by the SCOTUS. This Blago thing will slide by him like Dick Cheney on ice skates. Rahm took care of it.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:11 AM
 
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The Blago case is bad for Blago, though Obama's involvement is minimal.

That said, Obama will be a great President if he abandons many (if not most) of his campaign promises. Thus far, he has been doing a good job and has already switched with regards to many foolish ideas including: withdrawal from Iraq in 16 months, raising taxes on the 'rich' and windfall profits tax. Hopefully, he will not pass the Employee Free Choice Act (sometimes referred to as Card Check) or any sort of measure that gives Government more control over Healthcare (which did not work in Hawaii, Massachusetts and Vermont). It's less clear where he stands on offshore drilling and nuclear energy. His interview on Meet the Press was a joke; he couldn't give a straight answer, though he sounded great in the process.

It's time for substance!
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Obama has one thing going for him with regard to getting a chance to be a good president. He won the election fair and square, not appointed by the SCOTUS. This Blago thing will slide by him like Dick Cheney on ice skates. Rahm took care of it.
GWB won the Florida vote without human intervention. Did you miss that? It was only when opinion about whether a chad was hanging or not, that the SCOTUS came into the play.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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The Blago case is bad for Blago, though Obama's involvement is minimal.

That said, Obama will be a great President if he abandons many (if not most) of his campaign promises. Thus far, he has been doing a good job and has already switched with regards to many foolish ideas including: withdrawal from Iraq in 16 months, raising taxes on the 'rich' and windfall profits tax. Hopefully, he will not pass the Employee Free Choice Act (sometimes referred to as Card Check) or any sort of measure that gives Government more control over Healthcare (which did not work in Hawaii, Massachusetts and Vermont). It's less clear where he stands on offshore drilling and nuclear energy. His interview on Meet the Press was a joke; he couldn't give a straight answer, though he sounded great in the process.

It's time for substance!
So, let's see, in the OP of this post, I discussed creditability. According to your remarks above, creditability is not important. So, therefore, all future political races should be decided on who can lie the best? Or maybe know the least?

Interesting... you want integrity in the White House, but then maybe you don't. Hmmm?
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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I understand the concept of 'fiscally conservative, socially liberal,' but agree with a friend who told me that it is hard to truly balance both. If you're a true social liberal, then you'll be willing (if not eager) to support social programs that cost money. This makes it hard to be a true fiscal conservative, both on the tax side and (more importantly, IMO) the spending side.
I consider social programs to be economic liberalism. When I say I'm "socially liberal", I'm talking about things like:
- Being pro-same-sex-marriage
- Repealing laws against prostitution
- Legalizing drugs
- Repealing obscenity laws regarding adult entertainment
Et cetera.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:57 AM
 
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When GWB took office the internet and blogs were not so prevalent as they are now. The NYT was, and in some places still is, considered the news source of record. Things have changed. Over the course of several years I have noticed that electronic media (broadcast/cable news) was at least 2 days behind the internet, mostly bloggers, at getting news out to those interested. Media has mostly caught up now. Mostly.

News is now available constantly and instantly and there are plenty of interested parties ready to jump on any news break coming out. Regardless of your take on Bush, he has suffered through the trend above. Any new president will suffer equally simply because of the instant and constant dissemination of information. Welcome to the new world. There will be clouds.

To the poster who says 'the wing nuts on this forum are definitely a minority in the real world', that is a matter of perspective. My perspective is that you are certainly not the expert on wing nuts or the real world. Only your world. Many people just prefer to keep their thoughts to themselves.

And that is my take on my world.
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