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It's supposed to mean that it is MY point that lives are not trivial...that you don't or shouldn't get to go around ruining those when no or no meaningful thing is accomplished by it. Through August of this year in my community of just under 1.1 million people, there had been 4 fatalities in alcohol-related traffic accidents. Over the same period, thousands of people had been arrested on DUI charges. How far do you suppose this sort of ratio should be taken? How much do you expect to be able to gain out of it?
Well, you're not saying that thousands have been jailed. I think the onus of the burden should be on those breaking the law. If that inconveniences them, so be it.
Now, I'm not innocent of drinking & driving. Knock on wood I've never hurt anyone or been pulled over. But 8 TIMES????? My idea on these DUI's is, if they get one they get the ticket. Anytime it happens again, their license is suspended AND they get their car repossesed so it doesn't happen again. Thoughts?
You're absolutely right and that's the exactly the way it actually happens. The problem is these guys go back to driving on a suspended, get caught, do some short time, get out and re-offend.
I would favor state mandated forced rehab for habitual offenders after the 3rd offense within 2 years; or something like that.
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I still say if you made first offenders ride out with an EMS crew for awhile chances are a lot of them (other than the hardcore drunken idiots that couldn't care less in the first place) wouldn't get behind the wheel drinking again.
I still say if you made first offenders ride out with an EMS crew for awhile chances are a lot of them (other than the hardcore drunken idiots that couldn't care less in the first place) wouldn't get behind the wheel drinking again.
Well, you're not saying that thousands have been jailed. I think the onus of the burden should be on those breaking the law. If that inconveniences them, so be it.
These things vary by locale, but indeed everyone here does get one day in jail (though not necessarily 24 hours) and a 7-day license revocation. Those are administrative penalties. No conviction for anything is necessary. If you are convicted, the one day in jail counts as time-served. Having your life ruined meanwhile goes way beyond the level of inconvenience. And the question of what actual return you expect to receive for putting thousands of people through this particular wringer still goes unanswered.
I couldn't care less about the resultant harm done to a DWIer. The real issue is the danger posed to other people on the road - it's they who are the victims, not the other way around!
I understand your mindset. I have a different view...I don't like paying for others mistakes...You get a DUI, lose your job and can't find another job, now I have to pay for their welfare...The person is probably going to be depressed and continue driving drunk anyways...
The ignition interlock device (IDD) has a keyword in it, LOCK...Anyone ever hear the phrase "locks only keep honest people out"? IDDs are apparently easy for a mechanic to "fix", people will find a way around them.
These things vary by locale, but indeed everyone here does get one day in jail (though not necessarily 24 hours) and a 7-day license revocation. Those are administrative penalties. No conviction for anything is necessary. If you are convicted, the one day in jail counts as time-served. Having your life ruined meanwhile goes way beyond the level of inconvenience. And the question of what actual return you expect to receive for putting thousands of people through this particular wringer still goes unanswered.
I think the return is making the roads safer. At least some of those folks might think again before getting behind the wheel drunk. Again, I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who break the law, especially those who put others' lives in danger by doing so.
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I understand your mindset. I have a different view...I don't like paying for others mistakes...You get a DUI, lose your job and can't find another job, now I have to pay for their welfare...The person is probably going to be depressed and continue driving drunk anyways...
The ignition interlock device (IDD) has a keyword in it, LOCK...Anyone ever hear the phrase "locks only keep honest people out"? IDDs are apparently easy for a mechanic to "fix", people will find a way around them.
Seriously, I'd rather pay for someone's welfare than lose a family member or a friend. Here in CO, people can sometimes get restricted licenses to drive to work. There's also public transportation, car pooling, walking, etc.
I agree, people will find their way around anything, but locks do offer some deterrence.
I think the return is making the roads safer. At least some of those folks might think again before getting behind the wheel drunk. Again, I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who break the law, especially those who put others' lives in danger by doing so.
Who else are you cracking down on? Speeders? Tailgaters? People who change lanes without signaling? Where's the consistency...
Who else are you cracking down on? Speeders? Tailgaters? People who change lanes without signaling? Where's the consistency...
Drunk driving is extremely dangerous. About half of all fatalities are caused by drunk drivers, who, ironically, seem to usually kill rather than get killed. Yeah, I'd like to see more law enforcememt in general re: dangerous driving activities.
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