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Old 12-12-2008, 04:01 PM
 
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The word STRIKE comes to mind.
So do the words lock out and monopoly.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Yes indeed!

I've only hauled cattle swinging on a meat hook but that was many years ago before the white hair and wrinkled brow. I think some of that is what caused my hair to go white.
LOL...they ain't much better on the hoof either....in a curve they'll wrinkle you in spots you didn't even know you owned.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:58 PM
 
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LOL...they ain't much better on the hoof either....in a curve they'll wrinkle you in spots you didn't even know you owned.
Ha! And I'll bet my loads smelled a bit nicer? Lol!
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Ha! And I'll bet my loads smelled a bit nicer? Lol!
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:17 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The word STRIKE comes to mind.


I was thinking more like poor, ineffective, executive decision making, not conveniently wrapped up in one word but every bit as applicable.

All the whining about the UAW yet:

Where's the outrage over highly paid executives who sold companies down the river and now loll comfortably in their retirements?

Highly paid product planners who didn't?

Highly paid sales/marketing people who failed to deliver?

Highly paid stylists who came up with such atrocities as the Pontiac Aztek?

Highly paid engineers who designed products that flat don't work?
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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U.S. Senators killed an effort to rescue Detroit automakers Thursday night after a last-ditch attempt to renegotiate the deal died.

The package was doomed on a 52-35 procedural vote, well short of the 60 votes needed to bring the bill to the floor for passage.

ABC News: Bid to Save GM, Chrysler Loans Dies in Senate
Good , let Honda and Toyota buy up all the plants and re-open them to build thier better quality vehicles. Then they can throw all the unions and union workers out the door and start fresh.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Good , let Honda and Toyota buy up all the plants and re-open them to build thier better quality vehicles. Then they can throw all the unions and union workers out the door and start fresh.

Nah, once the union is out of the picture Toyota and Honda will be free to screw the workers. Then the workers will get fed up and organize a union again.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:12 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Nah, once the union is out of the picture Toyota and Honda will be free to screw the workers. Then the workers will get fed up and organize a union again.


There are companies in the world that consider their workers to be assets and don't attempt to screw them over. If the Big 3 had acted that way in the '50s and '60s they might not be in the dire position they find themselves in now.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:15 AM
 
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In right to work states the power is in the hands equally to both parties no need for unionization except to strong arm a company into doing what greed wants. Otherwise freedom is a better choice when it comes to productivity. Anyone that's been in a union would understand the need to be able to implement process improvements instantly that's required in today's businesses that are castrated in union environments through the imitation of the federal government that unions tend to imitate.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:17 AM
 
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There are companies in the world that consider their workers to be assets and don't attempt to screw them over. If the Big 3 had acted that way in the '50s and '60s they might not be in the dire positionthey find themselves in now.
Very true and in today's times I think fears of lawsuits and laws themselves would help to keep companies in check. Obviously you would still have some corruption and strong arm type tactics but if people searched a bit they would be surprised how well workers are protected through things like OSHA and the DOL.
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