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Old 03-01-2007, 10:39 PM
 
Location: WPB, FL. Dreaming of Oil city, PA
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Anyone ever write a modest proposal as a school project?

Back in high school in english class, the class had to write a modest proposal that was supposed to be a dramatic borderline satirical solution to a problem of your choice. Our text book had an example, it was about selling your baby as profit to be used as food to address the famine problem. The author explained that the cost to feed the baby is less than the profit youll make. We all thought that topic was way too crazy and there were much better solutions like growing fish and chicken.

I made my topic about making mating illegal. I actually thought it was a very reasonable modest proposal that could possibly become a reality. I didnt find it a satire. The class did laugh when I finished reading it but the jokes on them.

I dont have the report and dont remember much about what I wrote, it was many years ago. I do remember passing a law to make mating illegal except for procreation and you needed a "marriage" license in order to mate. Otherwise you were expected to be abstinant or go to jail. In my report, I explained that the law was for the common good and that it would cut down dramatically on unwanted pregnancy and venereal diseases. This would save us billions in health care costs and control overpopulation.

By making mating illegal, most people would stop and think seriously about the consequences. Much more seriously in fact because going to jail scares them more than pregnancy and venereal diseases. Also they can not commit their recreational mating acts in jail and therefore they are unable to impregnant or infect others while in jail. Their sentence will depend on how many victims they mated, repeat mate offenders and if they infected their victims. When they get released from jail, the more serious offenders will be castrated so they can never repeat their crime.

I was also in favor of giving first time offenders probation and psychiatric counseloring rather than jail as it costs taxpayer money to build more jails and the space is reserved for the more serious repeat offenders. I also pointed out that drugs have been illegal for many years because they are harmful to yourself, others and to society. Recreational mating also happens to be harmful just like drugs are because you can spread diseases and cause physical injuries too.

In my modest proposal, I also wrote that paraphernalia such as "adult toys" and pornography are illegal and would carry sentences ranging from a fine to community services to time in jail for repeat or major offenders. In fact pornography is illegal in many countries and should be illegal worldwide. paraphernalia is an act of perversion and although less dangerous than recreational mating, still doesnt make it right.

I concluded at the end of my report that the world would be a better place with those laws to protect us and punish the perverts. Procreation would go on because procreational mating is allowed, its what nature intended for the survival of our species and is what animals do, they mate for procreation.

 
Old 03-02-2007, 02:13 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Sorry, NAH... but as we said on the other thread, most people don't consider "mating" (i.e. SEX or making love) to be perverted & dangerous, provided you aren't being irresponsible. Humans are made to have sex, and I don't think any laws will stop us... I know some men in particular, who'd rather go to jail than abstain. I admire & respect your beliefs, but let's face reality - it ain't gonna happen!
 
Old 03-03-2007, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Sorry, NAH... but as we said on the other thread, most people don't consider "mating" (i.e. SEX or making love) to be perverted & dangerous, provided you aren't being irresponsible. Humans are made to have sex, and I don't think any laws will stop us... I know some men in particular, who'd rather go to jail than abstain. I admire & respect your beliefs, but let's face reality - it ain't gonna happen!
Why DO so many people obsess over others' sex lives? I don't care what anyone else does unless they're sleeping with me- then it'd be good to know where they've been Otherwise, what other people do for fun and pleasure is none of my business unless it's hurting someone else in a tangible way.
 
Old 03-03-2007, 08:43 PM
 
Location: WPB, FL. Dreaming of Oil city, PA
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Why DO so many people obsess over others' sex lives? I don't care what anyone else does unless they're sleeping with me- then it'd be good to know where they've been Otherwise, what other people do for fun and pleasure is none of my business unless it's hurting someone else in a tangible way.

And the truth it is!

http://www.chooseabstinence.org/facts/byemoney/ (broken link)


We, the taxpayers foot the bill for those who get sick or pregnant!

So has anyone here wrote a modest proposal? What do you think of my proposal? Could it become a reality in part or whole someday?
 
Old 03-03-2007, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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And the truth it is!
I am far more concerned with how my subsidizing corporate welfare is a drain than unplanned pregnancies (though those drain, too).

So, in an odd way, I guess because I can't stand how politicians are in bed with corporations and PACs, I DO care about who sleeps with who...
 
Old 03-04-2007, 03:16 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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And the truth it is!

http://www.chooseabstinence.org/facts/byemoney/ (broken link)


We, the taxpayers foot the bill for those who get sick or pregnant!

So has anyone here wrote a modest proposal? What do you think of my proposal? Could it become a reality in part or whole someday?
I'm sorry, but I don't think it will ever become a reality... at least not in our lifetime, or any in the near future! I think the key is education, not banning sex, since people are just not designed to abstain for life. If we continue to educate young people on the importance of safe sex (or monogamy), that's really all we can do. The bottom line is that people enjoy sex, and I don't think a law is going to stop them! How would you enforce that anyway? Plant cameras in everyone's homes??
 
Old 03-04-2007, 03:24 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Much more seriously in fact because going to jail scares them more than pregnancy and venereal diseases. Also they can not commit their recreational mating acts in jail and therefore they are unable to impregnant or infect others while in jail.
I just noticed this sentence, and had to laugh... you do realize that sex in jail is quite common, right? Often it's in the form of rape, which is unfortunately a huge problem in some prisons - particularly in large men's facilities. They've also had many cases of STDs being passed around, which is why they test for diseases before admitting a prisoner. (I only know this because I wrote a paper on prison populations... )
 
Old 03-04-2007, 03:26 AM
 
Location: WPB, FL. Dreaming of Oil city, PA
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Drugs are illegal, yet we often cant enforce it. Education is the key, this is why I made my chooseabstinence dot org website to educate others. Its not easy to get some people to listen and admit the facts. Sad to see the consequences that bestow them

As for jail, just keep each prisioner isolated and never together without guard supervision. If a rape still occurs, the rapist gets additional years added to his term.
 
Old 03-04-2007, 03:48 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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There's a big difference between drugs and sex, though... most drugs are always dangerous to use, whereas sex is only dangerous when done irresponsibly. I've never suffered from an STD or unwanted pregnancy, nor have the majority of people I know. That's why education is the only way to combat this problem, so they know how to have sex without endangering themselves. It's not inherently "perverted", as you seem to think, since it can be a beautiful act between people who love each other. I can't imagine a long-term relationship without this expression of love, and would never support a law against it.
 
Old 03-04-2007, 03:52 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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As for jail, just keep each prisioner isolated and never together without guard supervision. If a rape still occurs, the rapist gets additional years added to his term.
Some high-security prisons are already "isolation-only", but they cost MUCH more to maintain... I don't think taxpayers would be willing to foot the bill, which would probably be more than double the cost of a regular jail.
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