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Old 12-16-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This morning on the Today show, the cousin of Caroline Kennedy was trying to tell every one how great Caroline is and how qualified she is to get Hillary Senate seat. She was asked if it wasn't weird that her ex husband who is the Attorney general in NY, is also trying to get the seat.....she answered that her kids found it a weird situation.
What are we, the freaking house of lords? The US is not ruled by some aristocracy. This nepotism to unqualified doofuses with famous last names is sickening.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:39 AM
 
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I would hope that the same Obama crowd crowing about the US not being a monarchial system with respect to Bush/Clinton/BushII/ClintonII will come out AGAINST this family-name based entitlement that Mrs. Kennedy is promoting.

"I'm a Kennedy, therefore, I should get it."


Then again, we all knew this was the sort of thing she was angling for when she came out and used her name to stump for Obama during the campaign.
Please post proof that Kennedy said ,
"I'm a Kennedy, therefore, I should get it."


You say:""Then again, we all knew this was the sort of thing she was angling for when she came out and used her name to stump for Obama during the campaign""

YUP! THAT IS HOW POLITICS WORKS!

Then again your use of "we" negates your argument...who is "we"? Can you prove this was her goal at that time?
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:07 AM
 
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From wikipedia:

"""
Kennedy is an attorney, editor, writer and member of the New York and Washington, D.C. bar associations. She is one of the founders of the Profiles in Courage Award, given annually since 1990 to a person who exemplifies the type of courage examined in her father's Pulitzer Prize-winning book of the same name. The award is generally given to elected officials who, acting in accord with their conscience, risk their careers by pursuing a larger vision of the national, state or local interest in opposition to popular opinion or powerful pressures from their constituents. In May 2002, she presented an unprecedented Profiles in Courage Award to representatives of the NYPD, the New York City Fire Department, and the military as representatives of all of the people who acted to save the lives of others during the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.[4]
For 22 months from 2002 through 2004, Kennedy worked as director of strategic partnerships for the the New York City Department of Education. The three-day-a week job paid her a salary of $1 and had the goal of raising private money the New York City public schools.[5] In her capacity, she helped raise more than $65 million for the city’s public schools, according to her biography at the Kennedy Library.[3] She currently serves as the Vice Chair of The Fund for Public Schools, a public-private partnership founded in 2002 to attract private funding for public schools in New York City. [6]
In addition, Kennedy is currently President of the Kennedy Library Foundation,[3] a director of both the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and Honorary Chairman of the American Ballet Theatre. She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father.
Kennedy has represented her family at the funeral services of former Presidents Ronald Reagan in 2004 and Gerald Ford in 2007, and at the funeral service of former First Lady Lady Bird Johnson in 2007. She also represented her family at the dedication of the William J. Clinton Presidential Center and Park in Little Rock, Arkansas in November 2004."""
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:18 AM
 
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""""Can you imagine the 3 kids who I guess want their father (as it would be normal for kids to have their father getting things first..) to become the next senator over their Aunt, having to be in the middle of this family feud.""


See, it's this way ..incredibly stupid statements like the above negates anything else you have to say...take your undying backwards sexism and.......

Then Fathers , aunts,mothers, family feuds???? ..it just goes all down hill after that!
What is the sexism......?

First of all I couldn't care less if a man or a woman would be chosen...just the best person for the job with the best credentials and personal background check, whoever it is....we all have seen what Madoff has done and how people trusted him just because of his name and Gov. Blago....

IMO Caroline Kennedy would only get it because of her name, not of her having raised money for charities, which is wonderful, but it isn't what the job of a Senator is about. Being the daughter, niece, etc. of a famous person doesn't qualify you...JMO.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:23 AM
 
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What is the sexism......?

First of all I couldn't care less if a man or a woman would be chosen...just the best person for the job with the best credentials and personal background check, whoever it is....we all have seen what Madoff has done and how people trusted him just because of his name and Gov. Blago....

IMO Caroline Kennedy would only get it because of her name, not of her having raised money for charities, which is wonderful, but it isn't what the job of a Senator is about. Being the daughter, niece, etc. of a famous person doesn't qualify you...JMO.
Maybe I could understand you better if you could explain what the children have to do with the selection of a Senator??????


You sum up Kennedy's career as only "raising money for charities????

Skipped a few sentences , didn't you.


(Oh, BTW, raising money is a GREAT attribute for a politician...can't do anything without it)
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:38 AM
 
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Then there are the books and articles she's written, books about public policy, in her capacity as an attorney. How many junior Senators have been attorneys? How many have devoted the time and attention she has to public issues? One of the challenges of becoming a Senator is learning how the Senate works, but she'd probably hit the ground running given her background. One of the challenges of becoming a productive Senator is developing connections and networking, but she's probably ahead of the crowd in this, as well. She's accustomed to being in the public eye, and learned from the best how to balance private versus public life. There may be more qualified people the Governor of New York should consider, but she's not completely unqualified for this position and more qualified than many.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:50 PM
 
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From wikipedia:

"""
Kennedy is an attorney, editor, writer and member of the New York and Washington, D.C. bar associations. She is one of the founders of the Profiles in Courage Award, given annually since 1990 to a person who exemplifies the type of courage examined in her father's Pulitzer Prize-winning book of the same name. The award is generally given to elected officials who, acting in accord with their conscience, risk their careers by pursuing a larger vision of the national, state or local interest in opposition to popular opinion or powerful pressures from their constituents. In May 2002, she presented an unprecedented Profiles in Courage Award to representatives of the NYPD, the New York City Fire Department, and the military as representatives of all of the people who acted to save the lives of others during the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.[4]
For 22 months from 2002 through 2004, Kennedy worked as director of strategic partnerships for the the New York City Department of Education. The three-day-a week job paid her a salary of $1 and had the goal of raising private money the New York City public schools.[5] In her capacity, she helped raise more than $65 million for the city’s public schools, according to her biography at the Kennedy Library.[3] She currently serves as the Vice Chair of The Fund for Public Schools, a public-private partnership founded in 2002 to attract private funding for public schools in New York City. [6]
In addition, Kennedy is currently President of the Kennedy Library Foundation,[3] a director of both the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and Honorary Chairman of the American Ballet Theatre. She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father.
Kennedy has represented her family at the funeral services of former Presidents Ronald Reagan in 2004 and Gerald Ford in 2007, and at the funeral service of former First Lady Lady Bird Johnson in 2007. She also represented her family at the dedication of the William J. Clinton Presidential Center and Park in Little Rock, Arkansas in November 2004."""
Almost everything mentioned above is goes back to being JFK's little girl. All that it shows is that she rubs elbows with the political elite - again because she is JFK's daughter. She maybe a true "Grand Dame" in the aristocatic tradition, but how does any of this qualify her to be a US senator?
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:09 PM
 
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Almost everything mentioned above is goes back to being JFK's little girl. All that it shows is that she rubs elbows with the political elite - again because she is JFK's daughter. She maybe a true "Grand Dame" in the aristocatic tradition, but how does any of this qualify her to be a US senator?
Caroline Kennedy has done everything on her own - for goodness sakes, her father DIED when she was about five years old. Sheesh.....he wasn't exactly around to help.

She's a very smart, educated woman who has done MUCH on her own. She's no less qualified than anyone else in the Senate.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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Big whoop. It's a potential quid-pro-quo for her family's support of Obama over La Clintonista.
RFK Jr., Kerry Kennedy, and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend all supported Clinton...
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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Fair points...almost.
The point...underscored since...was that the complaint isn't really over name at all. It's over the idea that the name is "Kennedy", what with so many of the right-wing bots having been programmed over the years to revile that name...
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