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Old 12-26-2008, 03:25 PM
 
Location: NC
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No, Communism is a socio-economic system, like feudalism, capitalism etc. The main reason it is considered to be evil is that there has never been a democratic communist country.

In my opinion the only evil thing in Communist societies is a lack of self determination on the part of the people living there. In my opinion a capitalist dictatorship like Sudan is pretty much just as bad as socialist or communist dictatorships like Libya or Cuba.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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How do you know communism takes the freedom away? The american media told you?
No, it's those numb-skulled conservatives who still value those worthless ideals like religion and such that have given it a bad name. Communism is the best that any country can hope for, and that is why it is important that we unionize all forms of work in Amerika, and extend the number of terms President Obama can serve. I believe he and his children should be president for the next 50 years, or until the Communist Party of the USA supplants the Democrats. It is clear that we should band together to make certain that no Republican will ever get elected ever again.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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No, Communism is a socio-economic system, like feudalism, capitalism etc. The main reason it is considered to be evil is that there has never been a democratic communist country.

In my opinion the only evil thing in Communist societies is a lack of self determination on the part of the people living there. In my opinion a capitalist dictatorship like Sudan is pretty much just as bad as socialist or communist dictatorships like Libya or Cuba.
Well said, comrade.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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No, Communism is a socio-economic system, like feudalism, capitalism etc. The main reason it is considered to be evil is that there has never been a democratic communist country.
I was with you on it being socio-economic system. But then you threw in political system. And while I'm unaware of a democratic communist country, some democratic countries have communist governance at state level, elected democratically. Example (http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-09/2006-08-30-voa29.cfm - broken link).
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:16 PM
 
Location: NC
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I was with you on it being socio-economic system. But then you threw in political system. And while I'm unaware of a democratic communist country, some democratic countries have communist governance at state level, elected democratically. Example (http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-09/2006-08-30-voa29.cfm - broken link).
I agree with you, but I am a bit confused. What is it you disagree with me on. Yes there are communist governments on the state level like Kerala in India, and they are democratic and sucessful. Communism is a socio-economic system. Republics, Democracies, and Theocracies are political systems. In my opinion they Apples and Oranges. I think there can be communist democracies, just their haven't been any yet, as there are indeed socialist democracies that work and have worked very well. The best example is Greece which went from a third world capitalist dictatorship in the 1970s to a socialist democracy in the 1980s and under socialism it became a devoloped country and member of the EU. In the 1980s and 1990s the standard of living of the average Greek rose dramatically and the country prospered. To me the an economic system should be subordiante to the the will of the people and if people in a democracy vote for a communist, socialist, capitalist or feudalistic economic system then that is the system they should have.
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Sometimes Miami sometimes Australia
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I have 2 degrees in finance, linguistics and marketing. I work 4-6 hours a day waiting tables and earn 6 euros per hour. I pay rent, everything comes out of my wage and im not left with anything.

Living in Cuba where I would be alotted a sack of rice, a bit of chicken and milk, flour, oil, fruits for sitting on my ass everyday seems ahell of alot better than my life in a free, liberal democracy.
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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If communism had ever existed apart from totalitarian states, police states or economic basket cases, it would deserve a shot at working, perhaps. But it hasn't, and that is a judgment in itself.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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I don't understand, I think it is only about tyranny government or democratic government. Not communist or capitalist things/
It was never against Communism at first, it was against tyranny and oppression. However, as time went on Communism took the center stage as the perpetrator.. The truth of the matter is neither Communism or Fascist can exist without tyranny to some extent, therefore I suppose we are correct in our distaste for them.

Democracy + Communism = Failure

It cannot exist due to human nature.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:26 PM
 
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You use the word "democracy" as if it means something different from "communism", it doesn't. In fact most communist countries call themselves democracies: Lao People's Democratic Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo, Democratic People's Republic of [North] Korea, etc.

Communism is what you get with pure democracy: mob rule, economic collapse, and inevitable dictatorship. Successful countries are in fact less democratic and have more controls in place to keep the people from voting for someone outside the political establishment.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:27 PM
 
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Though there is still crazy Kim Jong II out in North Korea.
dont worry theres americans like him thats willing to invade any country for spECIAL interest
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