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Old 12-29-2008, 02:03 PM
 
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And how did we get here? Why should I care if Lindsey Lohan's lesbian lover was admitted to a hospital in LA? Why should I care about Paris Hilton?

Furthermore, what is with the emphasis on these youngsters who haven't even lived long enough to figure out what it's all about?

I have heard other cultures are not this way. What is wrong with Americans?
Because the media tells you to care and I guess you do care because you know all of the names.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Pinellas Park, FL
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speak only for yourself, please! As long as there is "profit" in the kind of mindless divel that is being discussed in the above posts, it will continue to exist. When we get good and bored with it, and no longer support it financially, it will wither away and die, possibly to be replaced by even more shocking drivel, but (please) not necessarily.

Ok whatever... We still as Americans don't have "Culture" If we did for starters our children as a whole wouldn't be so stupid. We wouldn't be as far behind the other countries as we are. It is because we are all about the all all mighty dollar.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:33 PM
 
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And how did we get here? Why should I care if Lindsey Lohan's lesbian lover was admitted to a hospital in LA? Why should I care about Paris Hilton?

Furthermore, what is with the emphasis on these youngsters who haven't even lived long enough to figure out what it's all about?

I have heard other cultures are not this way. What is wrong with Americans?
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you have been programmed, since birth, by marketers to like what they want you to like.

its inevitable, it cant be stopped. resistance is futile, you will be assimilated...

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Too fast paced, too materialistic, lack of empathy. Its a disease I call Americanism and its spreading.
Chicken and egg argument ongoing with 6 o'clock news & prime time investigative journalists... sex and scandal sells so give them what they want. Problem is it becomes something of a self fulfilling prophecy when everything on the news is bad news, and when sex/ scandals are the only thing reported on.

Similarly the soft journals seeking validation from their public create a closed loop culture . This never ending pursuit of validation encourages weak mindedness. Cosmo has had the same headline for 20 odd years IMO. Did I miss something? The problem with advances in understanding the human animal is that it becomes a tool of madison avenue marketeers. The profession is intrinsically flawed in that it's sole purpose is to manipulate at the expense of the truth. Everything you see & hear is an illusion designed to lead you. The purpose is to garner market share of some sort, whether justifying $500 sneakers or harvesting political power. Same chit different day.

I ask any parent to be more keenly aware of how madison avenue means to lead your child. Pay attention to what they're exposed to because it's not innocent. MTV culture for teens who are impressionable is something my peers addressed in the 80's but it fell on deaf ears. They came back at us with 'reality shows' which are equally unreal.

Original post: Our 'culture' seems to have devolved in a few ways but from what I've observed it amounts to trading off addictions. Trade a bottle for a hooka pipe, a crack pipe, designer drugs or prescription abuse. Shopaholics, sexual addicts, couch potatoes avoiding reality... they have more in common than not. One is socially sanctioned in a capitalist system, the other is vilified? How tacky a reference is the sitcom 'rosanne' when her sister Jackie exclaimed "Have another shot of pancake, Roseanne!" hahahaa

My great grandmother from lithuania & I were very close. She had at best a 6th grade education and used to read the national enquirer back in the day. I had read it once and made a simplistic statement as a child. "It's a lot like church, nanny". Food for thought she took seriously enough to cancel her subscription. She also came to see that the example she set in church by engaging in gossip F/T was leading youth astray. Had she been too vested in defending her habit (CPG case in point. Since when is America above self criticism?) she never would've realized how much I needed her leadership (untainted by hypocrisy).
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I thimk the turning point for our culture was when it became acceptable to potray murdererd, drug dealers and gangsters as "heroes" (example Scarface, goodfellas, Resovior dogs, et al). And of course that opened the door to gangsta rap. And now, kids are no longer praised for bieng smart, but rather how well they imitate ignorant street thugs.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:52 PM
 
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I think the turning point for our culture was when - for whatever reasons - it became the norm for moms to work outside the home.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:04 PM
 
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I thimk the turning point for our culture was when it became acceptable to potray murdererd, drug dealers and gangsters as "heroes" (example Scarface, goodfellas, Resovior dogs, et al). And of course that opened the door to gangsta rap. And now, kids are no longer praised for bieng smart, but rather how well they imitate ignorant street thugs.
I agree with you. In my opinion, the main problem with our culture is that we no longer prize intelligence. In fact, it's quite the opposite. The youth of this country idealizes idiocy. It's "gay" to do well in school or have an interest in something other than pop culture. Elsewhere in the world, interest in the arts, literature, sciences, et cetera is far more encouraged and rewarded.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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America doesn't have a Homer or Shakespeare to begin with. That's the real problem.
we do have a Homer

Simpson!


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Old 12-29-2008, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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I thimk the turning point for our culture was when it became acceptable to potray murdererd, drug dealers and gangsters as "heroes" (example Scarface, goodfellas, Resovior dogs, et al). And of course that opened the door to gangsta rap. And now, kids are no longer praised for bieng smart, but rather how well they imitate ignorant street thugs.

Oh Hell, that kind of thing has been a part of our culture for a LONG time, dig the Warner's gangster pictures of the 1930s and the popular sympathy at the time for the James Gang and other banditti.
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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The worst thing about modern American culture is the goonish practice of wearing baseball and seed caps everywhere and not taking them off when indoors.

Now they even have upscale seed caps which are subtly restyled with a longer bill and lower crown than traditional low-rent caps; thus the wearer can proclaim he's a white-collar idiot rather than a blue-collar one.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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one interesting example of how marketing controls you without you even knowing it


When did women start shaving their legs?
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