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Old 01-03-2009, 03:31 AM
 
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There may be other treatments that come of this that can help adults.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:32 AM
 
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This is why I don't ever want to have kids because I'm telling you...if it came out & I knew it would turn out a republican bigoted *******, I'd shove it back in to bake some more.
Same for me, but only a liberal instead.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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There may be other treatments that come of this that can help adults.
No sweetie, go take a basic biology course on genetics.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:37 AM
 
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You are diminishing the true stories and experiences of ex-gays, and their wonderful personal journeys and transformations.

Ex-gay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're disregarding the majority of gays for whom "transformation" is ineffective and useless.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:37 AM
 
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You are diminishing the true stories and experiences of ex-gays, and their wonderful personal journeys and transformations.

Ex-gay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're kidding right? Did you even read that before posting it? LMAO examples straight from your own post;

"Controversies involving minors

One of the most controversial aspects of the ex-gay movement has been the focus of some ex-gay organizations on teenagers,[citation needed] including occasions where teenagers have been forcibly treated in ex-gay camps. A 2006 report outlined evidence that ex-gay and conversion therapy groups were at the time increasingly focusing on children.[72] Several legal researchers have responded to these events by arguing that parents who force their children into aggressive conversion therapy programs are committing child abuse under various state statutes.[73][74]

Some youths have sought emancipation from their parents due to parental attempts to force their children to undergo conversion therapy.[75] One such case involved Lyn Duff. In 1991, at age 14, Duff came out publicly as a lesbian. Concerned about her daughter's sexual orientation, Duff's mother had her taken by force from her grandparents' home to Rivendell Psychiatric Center, a residential treatment center near Salt Lake City. [76] Duff's placement was paid for by the State of California through special education funds on the basis of her diagnosis with Gender Identity Disorder.[citation needed] Her treatment reportedly included shock therapy, aversion therapy, psychotropic drugs, hypnosis, and behavioral counseling.[77][78][79][80] After 168 days in Rivendell, Duff escaped.[81] In 1992, she initiated legal action against the facility and her mother.[82]

Love in Action is an ex-gay organization that has been involved in controversy surrounding youth. In July 2005, the New York Times ran a feature story about 16-year-old Zachary Stark, whose parents forced him to attend an ex-gay camp run by Love in Action.[83] In July 2005, Stark was released from the camp.[84] An investigation of the camp did not uncover signs of child abuse, but in September 2005, the camp was shut down when Tennessee authorities discovered that unlicensed staff had been administering prescription drugs to children.[85]

In October 2005, the father of 17-year old DJ Butler reportedly drove his son to a Love in Action camp in handcuffs.[86] In February 2006, Tennessee authorities, unwilling to pursue further actions against Love in Action, closed its case regarding this incident.[86]

[edit] Other controversies and scandals

* Colin Cook, founder of Homosexuals Anonymous, was in 1986 discovered to be engaging in sexual acts with his patients. He claimed that the nude massages of other men should desensitize them against homosexual desires. In 1987, he was expelled from Homosexuals Anonymous for sexual activity, and in 1995 a similar scandal happened with his newly founded group FaithQuest Colorado. Cook had engaged in phone sex, practiced long and grinding hugs, and asked patients to bring gay pornography to sessions so that he could help desensitize them against it.[87]
* Michael Johnston, an HIV-positive man who is featured in the film It's Not Gay, promoted by the American Family Association, had frequently been interviewed on U.S. television and radio regarding his claimed change in sexuality, and even featured in a national television advertising campaign in 1998 stating that Jesus Christ empowered him to leave his homosexual past. In 2002, he was exposed as having recently resumed having sex with men, and he admitted to having had unprotected sex with multiple male partners without disclosing his HIV-positive status, despite knowing he that he was HIV-positive, for over a period of two years.[88]
* Christopher Austin was an ex-gay counselor who was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2007 for sexually assaulting a male client. Austin was affiliated with and gave presentations at NARTH and Evergreen International, which describes him as "a therapist specializing in homosexual and sexual addiction recovery [and] the creator of RENEW, a multi-dimensional treatment approach for men struggling with homosexuality".[89][90]
* Terrance Lewis was a minister and former counsellor at Providence Bible College in Winnipeg, Canada who was found guilty in February 2008 for sexually assaulting a young man who sought counselling to make him straight. The alleged victim, now 29, told court he started meeting Lewis for counselling sessions in early 2000 after his parents caught him viewing gay pornography on the family computer. The man said Lewis started a program of “touch therapy,” which included the two kissing and fondling each other and engaging in sexual roleplaying." [91][92]
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:38 AM
 
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No sweetie, go take a basic biology course on genetics.

Quit calling me sweetie or I will call you Snagglepuss.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Quit calling me sweetie or I will call you Snagglepuss.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Sometimes Miami sometimes Australia
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Gays who cant accept themselves get married and hang out in public toilets in their free time outside of their cities and lead empty, painful lives.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:50 AM
 
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No, I'm not and you are putting words in my mouth. We all know that gays exist. All you have to do is turn on the television.

What the world doesn't know about is the successful ex-gays. That's all I was trying to do was make information more available.
*sigh* Are you totally ignoring the failure rate, mental harm, and the denunciation of the whole process by every major medical/mental health organization? Are you being willfully dense/ignorant or does it come naturally?
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:51 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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*sigh* Are you totally ignoring the failure rate, mental harm, and the denunciation of the whole process by every major medical/mental health organization? Are you being willfully dense/ignorant or does it come naturally?
Do you think a lobotomy has come to order?
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