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Old 01-09-2009, 09:35 AM
 
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She is South African-American, just like you stated Mexican-American.

She is from a particular country not the whole continent.
Blacks are not from the whole continent either. Are Moroccans black? How about Egyptian?
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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I know that. I'm a geography dork. But if CT can't be referred to as an AA, then no one can. Is that your argument? It would have to be for consistency's sake.
In a purely logical sense, "CT" is just as much an African as Hillary Clinton is an American. But this isn't cold logic here.....so you're technically correct, but you're going nowhere....
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:39 AM
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Blacks in America were bread like cattle, and are a genetic mix of many African tribes, so they can't be associated with one cultural group or location
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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Blacks in America were bread like cattle, and are a genetic mix of many African tribes, so they can't be associated with one cultural group or location
Would that be Whole Wheat, Soft Rye, Sourdough or (heaven forbid) White Bread?
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:43 AM
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Would that be Whole Wheat, Soft Rye, Sourdough or (heaven forbid) White Bread?
seven grain bred
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Philly, Philly
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Blacks are not from the whole continent either. Are Moroccans black? How about Egyptian?
black is a whole different term than African American to me.

I do not know, and many others do not know where their ancestors came from before they came to America. So i guess thats why they lumped us all into one category.

and Moroccan are not black. They are Moroccan, just like people who live in Egypt are Egyptian.

Black is a term made up in America. When people from the counties you listed come to America, they are where they came from. But I bet some one who wouldn't know their culture or background would call them black...

I don't know if that really made sense
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:45 AM
 
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She is South African-American, just like you stated Mexican-American. You wouldn't refer to him/her as a North American.

She is from a particular country not the whole continent.
In theory I concur with you. However, for consistency's sake you must apply that rule evenly and across the board. So, you believe that the term, "African American", in and of itself is convoluted and shouldn't be applied to anyone. Because, as you correctly stated no one is referred to as a European American or North American American. Correct? However, the "rule" isn't applied consistently since the term, "Asian American" is quite prevalent. So, we're back to square one.
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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What do you mean? She was born in South Africa and did indeed immigrate to the states. Why are you disputing that? The facts are irrefutable. Born and raised in Africa, emigrated to America= African American. I'm confused by your confusion.

Born in Mexico and become an American: Mexican American
Born in India and become an American: Indian American
Born in African and become an American: African American
Mexico is a country. India is a country. South Africa is a country. She is a South African-American, or an American who was born in South Africa.

An African American, for the 8000th time, is someone descended from Africans involuntarily taken from there who developed a distinct culture in America. Immigrants from Africa are not African Americans. An African American does not know which country his or her ancestors came from hundreds of years ago, hence the designation from the continent.

If you are confused by my confusion, try reading this entire thread. You refuse to not be confused. I have unconfused anyone who wishes not to remain confused.
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Toledo
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I know that. I'm a geography dork. But if CT can't be referred to as an AA, then no one can. Is that your argument? It would have to be for consistency's sake.
African-American is primarily used for those who cannot trace their roots to a particular country. I see nothing wrong with using it in this context. If a person's nationality is known, there is really no reason to use ‎African-American.
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:49 AM
 
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Blacks in America were bread like cattle, and are a genetic mix of many African tribes, so they can't be associated with one cultural group or location
Africans, as well as Europeans, Natives and sometimes Asians.
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