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Old 01-11-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Another aircraft carrier, a waste of money and the American version of the Maginot Line. Just as the French built the Maginot Line to better refight The Great War we build carriers to better refight the battles of the Coral Sea, Midway and the Phillipine Sea.

Only where is the Japanese fleet they're to fight?

Better to name these vessels after dead presidents and ones dead long enough that we're assured of their greatness, naming important vessels after mediocrities like Bush and Ford is ridiculous. I'd name a carrier after James Polk or Andy Jackson though.
I'd rather name one after Moe,Larry and Curly than one of the Bush boys.
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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I'd rather name one after Moe,Larry and Curly than one of the Bush boys.
It's called TRADITION but that word/ideal and others like Duty,Honor,Service,Country may be strange to some............
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Another aircraft carrier, a waste of money
Not a "waste" of money in any sense.

A Carrier can be a wonderful symbol of diplomacy or, if necessary, a symbol of America's military might.

This wonderful ship will serve this nation for at least 50 years - its a bargain.
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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Put alot of welders, shipfitters, Engineers, painters, sailors and other associated folk to work. Wonder how many miles were put on domestic automobiles to get this carrier built. I dont see it any different than than O-criminals public works boondoggle coming up shortly

My ship USS Caron was named post humously

Wayne Maurice Caron was born in Middleboro, Massachusetts, on 2 November 1946, son of Aime Joseph and Lorraine Janet (Paradise) Caron. He graduated from Memorial High School, Middleboro, June 1966, and on 12 July that year, he enlisted in the U.S. Navy at Boston, Massachusetts. He subsequently advanced to Hospital Apprentice 23 September 1966, Hospitalman 1 April 1967, and Hospital Corpsman Third Class 16 January 1968.

Following his enlistment in 1966, he had recruit training at the Naval Training Center, Great Lakes, Illinois until October of that year, then was a student at the Naval Hospital Corps School, Great Lakes. From January 1967 to April 1968, he served at the Naval Hospital, Great Lakes, after which he had instruction at the Field Medical Service School, Marine Corps Base, Camp Pendleton, California. In July 1968, he joined Headquarters and Service Company, Third Battalion, Seventh Marines, First Marine Division (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, and was serving as Platoon Corpsman with Company K, when he was killed in action on 28 July 1968. "For conspicuous gallantry at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty...during combat operations against enemy forces in the Republic Vietnam..," he was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor. The citation further states:

"While on a sweep through an open rice field in Quang Nam Province, Petty Officer Caron's unit started receiving enemy small-arms fire. Upon seeing two Marine casualties fall, he immediately ran forward to render first aid, but found that they were dead. At this time, the platoon was taken under intense small-arms and automatic weapons fire, sustaining additional casualties. As he moved to the aid of his wounded comrades, Petty Officer Caron was hit in the arm by enemy fire. Although knocked to the ground, he regained his feet and continued to aid the injured Marines. He rendered medical assistance to the first Marine he reached, who was grievously wounded, and undoubtedly was instrumental in saving the man's life. Petty Officer Caron then ran toward the second wounded Marine, but was again hit by enemy fire, this time in the leg. Nonetheless, he crawled the remaining distance and provided medical aid to this severely wounded man. (He) started to make his way to yet another injured comrade, when he was again struck by enemy small-arms fire. Courageously, and with unbelievable determination, (he) continued his attempt to reach the third Marine, until he, himself, was killed by an enemy rocket. His inspiring valor, steadfast determination, and selfless dedication in the face of extreme danger, sustain and enhance the finest traditions of the United States Naval Service."

He was awarded the Purple Heart Medal for wounds received in the aforementioned action.

In addition to the Medal of Honor and the Purple Heart Medal, he has the Combat Action Ribbon, The National Defense Service Medal, and the Vietnam Service Medal. He also had the Vietnamese Military Merit Medal, the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal and the Vietnamese Gallantry Cross with Palm.
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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It's called TRADITION but that word/ideal and others like Duty,Honor,Service,Country may be strange to some............
Yes, those vurtues are very alien to The Bush Crime Family members, there is also something that is rather traditional concerning a POTUS...The Constitution...which Bush Jr. found to be quite an annoyance, you know..."just a damned piece of paper."
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:58 AM
 
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So your interpretation of the Constitution is the only correct one.

got it

quit whining. If he had done somethng illegal he would be impeacched or on trial. Until then

SHHhhush
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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MSC Ship Inventory - USNS Bob Hope
The USNS Bob Hope
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Though I think President Carter was an embarassment to this country I still wouldn't argue against a Navy ship or Submarine named after him since he was a sitting president and he did serve as an officer in the Navy. President Bush was a Naval officer and a sitting US President. Whatever your leftist sites have about him, he wasn't impeached, he wasn't convicted, and he wasn't removed from office other than loosing an election. His big mistake while president was not finishing the job with Desert Storm but we have France to thank for that. France didn't want to jepordize their sweetheart oil deals with Saddam by having the USA remove him from power. The ship I served on was an amphibious assault ship called the USS Iwo Jima LPH-2. It was a helicopter carrier with roughly 2,000 Marines and 1,000 Sailors. It was named after the island that was a site of a major battle in WW2. It was decommissioned in 1993 and a new amphib ship was later given the same name.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Not a "waste" of money in any sense.

A Carrier can be a wonderful symbol of diplomacy or, if necessary, a symbol of America's military might.

This wonderful ship will serve this nation for at least 50 years - its a bargain.


Pretty expensive symbolism. The British projected diplomacy quite well with much smaller and cheaper warships.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Though I think President Carter was an embarassment to this country I still wouldn't argue against a Navy ship or Submarine named after him since he was a sitting president and he did serve as an officer in the Navy.

I don't think either was worthy of having a capital ship named after him. It's like having a U.S.S. Franklin Pierce or U.S.S. James Buchanan.
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