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Old 01-13-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Kere, one only needs to review the reports and studies of what has happened and IS happening in Amsterdam and San Francisco and that is just two cities. This is not a new issue it has been debated and studied in the 60's, 70's and 80's. As for the cigarette and criminal activity, one only needs to travel to the East Coast. It appears that you dont read much or choose to ignore facts that dont suit you. Good luck with the Cheech and Chong mentality, perhaps at some point you will learn it is fiction not reality.
Have any proof or just more of your bs?
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I was all for it but here lately I've been seeing some of my families kids turn out to be worthless because all they want to do is smoke weed, it's got me wondering if I do want it legal or not.
Ever think that *gasp* its the kids not the weed? I know adults that make 80k+ a year in highly stressful jobs that STILL smoke it. A drunk is a drunk, a worthless stoner is a worthless stoner. Blame the idiot not the weed. That is like blaming video games for kids being violent pricks.

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:25 AM
 
Location: California
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Ever think that *gasp* its the kids not the weed? I know adults that make 80k+ a year in highly stressful jobs that STILL smoke it. A drunk is a drunk, a worthless stoner is a worthless stoner. Blame the idiot not the weed. That is like blaming video games for kids being violent pricks.
Well I'm not blaming the weed, I've smoked my share, I'm just not sure what I think of it any more, when you get around people like that it kinda turns you off on the whole thing. I's like being sober in a room full of drunks.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Well I'm not blaming the weed, I've smoked my share, I'm just not sure what I think of it any more, when you get around people like that it kinda turns you off on the whole thing. I's like being sober in a room full of drunks.
Could it be that you smoked so much of it you just don't know wha........Hey look,a chicken j/k
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: California
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Could it be that you smoked so much of it you just don't know wha........Hey look,a chicken j/k

You never know I smoked a lot of it in my younger years.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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Kere, one only needs to review the reports and studies of what has happened and IS happening in Amsterdam and San Francisco and that is just two cities. This is not a new issue it has been debated and studied in the 60's, 70's and 80's. As for the cigarette and criminal activity, one only needs to travel to the East Coast. It appears that you dont read much or choose to ignore facts that dont suit you. Good luck with the Cheech and Chong mentality, perhaps at some point you will learn it is fiction not reality.
the effects of mj and other drugs is irrelevent. if an adult wants to smoke, inject, drink or pop something what gives you the right to object? i don't think that amsterdam is a good test case because it attracts dopers from all over the world. what is happening there anyway?
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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Normally I would be all for it. Not because I use it myself, but rather a drop in the Marijuana price means that that other more destructive drugs become less appealing (Cocaine, Heroine, Meth).

sorry frankie i disagree. if i am having a bbq with friends i occassionally like to smoke a joint. when i went out clubbing/raving i'd probably choose ecstacy but i used to enjoy diet pills(freely available, no issues with cops, no downer). i was never really a big fan of coke but i'd do the odd line here and there if one of my buds had some. just speaking from experience. it has been a long time since i used any of it though. i've had kids and so have my mates so it doesn't linger around anymore

price is irrelevant. coke doesn't become more or less appealing if someone scored a deal on some hash. it just doesn't work that way.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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the effects of mj and other drugs is irrelevent. if an adult wants to smoke, inject, drink or pop something what gives you the right to object? i don't think that amsterdam is a good test case because it attracts dopers from all over the world. what is happening there anyway?
I agree with you about freedom of choice on everything, except meth makes me think twice. This is the worst drug there is I think, because it is toxic, making it causes a lot of pollution and is potentially explosive, and I have seen it turn people into aggressive thrill-seeking borderline sociopaths who do messed up things just to do em. It actually does harm society beyond the individual.

The funny thing is, alcohol has a lot of those same negative effects. Pot is very safe comparatively, and in fact I have yet to find a recreational drug that is safer. Aspirin kills more people than weed. So do prescription pain killers and antidepressants that people use instead of weed because of big pharma's influence on the law.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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That's for certain...you've got cops, judges, prison guards and all the other related jobs that need drugs to remain illegal.
you're forgetting dealers, manufacturers, gangs, underground arms dealers, ammunition manufacturers etc
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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I was all for it but here lately I've been seeing some of my families kids turn out to be worthless because all they want to do is smoke weed, it's got me wondering if I do want it legal or not.

first off, you have to define worthless. are they worthless because they don't conform to YOUR idea of success? what good has drug prohibition done on keeping it out of your family's kids hands? are they 'worthless' perhaps because they are spoiled and have everything they need without work? in my experience this tops drugs as the reason for kids apathy
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