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Old 01-21-2009, 07:04 AM
 
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"I agree with Newt"

That's all I needed to read.
No, this is right even if it is the beloathed Newt. The people in the cabinet should be as pure as possible - why bother with the 64-page questionnaire, otherwise? Why spend so much time haggling about the transparency of Bill Clinton's nonprofits?
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:16 AM
 
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bots shrieked unceasingly about joe the plumber's $1400 in back taxes. will they give a pass to bammers' treasury secretary pick, in the same disconnect that allowed them to completely ignore the fact that o's very own campaign treasurer also owed more back taxes than mr. wurzelbacher?
The JTP comedy isn't comparable. Joe lied about wanting to start a business and implied his tax bracket was/would be above $250K, and it was proved that IRL he'd do better tax-wise with Obama than with McCain. That was what was important about Joe, not his unpaid taxes. That part of his story was just sad and embarrassing.

That said, I agree T. Geithner certainly shouldnt get a pass on this.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:19 AM
 
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Starting the same thread, over and over isn't going to make things any different for you. Why not use an existing thread in which the issue has been beaten to death? Link
this thread was started last tuesday, january 13.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:25 AM
 
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The JTP comedy isn't comparable. Joe lied about wanting to start a business and implied his tax bracket was/would be above $250K, and it was proved that IRL he'd do better tax-wise with Obama than with McCain. That was what was important about Joe, not his unpaid taxes. That part of his story was just sad and embarrassing.

That said, I agree T. Geithner certainly shouldnt get a pass on this.
if that was the 'important' part, why was so much bot-energy expended wailing about his back-taxes? and how do you know he was lying about wanting to start his own business? link please.

and why could i never get a single bot to address the wee problem of obama's campaign treasurer martin nesbitt also owing more back taxes than did j the p?

but i'm glad you agree that geithner should not get a pass..
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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The JTP comedy isn't comparable. Joe lied about wanting to start a business and implied his tax bracket was/would be above $250K, and it was proved that IRL he'd do better tax-wise with Obama than with McCain. That was what was important about Joe, not his unpaid taxes. That part of his story was just sad and embarrassing.

That said, I agree T. Geithner certainly shouldnt get a pass on this.
Agreed, not when you are annually reimbursed an allowance for taxes you didn't pay:

Barack Obama’s Treasury Secretary-designate not only cheated the U.S. government out of thousands of dollars in taxes, he actually pocketed money that his employer gave him as reimbursement for the taxes he never paid.

A national news magazine reports that Timothy Geithner’s problems are much more serious than previously reported. Besides failing to pay the U.S. government $34,000 in taxes, Obama’s pick to run the agency that



Geithner Kept Reimbursements For Taxes He Didn't Pay | Judicial Watch
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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Agreed, not when you are annually reimbursed an allowance for taxes you didn't pay:

Barack Obama’s Treasury Secretary-designate not only cheated the U.S. government out of thousands of dollars in taxes, he actually pocketed money that his employer gave him as reimbursement for the taxes he never paid.

A national news magazine reports that Timothy Geithner’s problems are much more serious than previously reported. Besides failing to pay the U.S. government $34,000 in taxes, Obama’s pick to run the agency that



Geithner Kept Reimbursements For Taxes He Didn't Pay | Judicial Watch

This is so silly. Geithner certainly should have caught the error, however the vast majority of taxpayers who hire accountants to prepare their taxes trust those accountants to understand the rules and laws and to prepare the forms accordingly. This wasn't a simple 1040-A form (which many people don't do themselves, either). The IMF issued him a W-2. They also issued him a payment to pay the SS and Medicare himself. He signed the form when he received the payment acknowledging that he needed to pay those taxes from the employer side. WHICH HE DID. The error, an error made my many, many people who work for international and foreign firms, was that he didn't pay the SS and Medicare taxes from the employee side. It was an oversight, not an attempt to defraud anyone, and he remedied it. The IRS sees this error being made so often it offers people no-penalty opportunities to correct it. It's confusing and a common error.

As for "hiring the illegal", she was legal when he hired her. Funny, but the only time my employer has ever asked for my documentation was when I was hired TWELVE years ago. Her documentation expired during her employment with Geithner, and neither caught it immediately. That's NOT hiring an illegal.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:45 AM
 
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This is so silly.
Thanks for that. I'd written a similar summary, but it apparently got vaporized somehow when the threads were merged. I'll simply add that if there were some group of people overqualified to be Secretary of the Treasury, Geithner would be in it. Despite his noteworthy resume of expertise and non-partisanship, he is being sniped at by partisans for purely partisan purposes. The tax issues raised are garden variety matters that have been raised and resolved in exactly the usual manner, one that would be seen as well in the handling of hundreds of thousands of similar issues every year...
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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however the vast majority of taxpayers who hire accountants to prepare their taxes trust those accountants to understand the rules and laws and to prepare the forms accordingly
He prepared his own taxes in 2001 and 2002 and is now kinda blaming Intuit tax software for the mistake.

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The error, an error made my many, many people who work for international and foreign firms, was that he didn't pay the SS and Medicare taxes from the employee side.
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“There’s not a high incidence of non-payment of taxes,” Bill Murray, an IMF spokesman, told me Thursday. “We have a very low incidence of that here.”

The ethics office’s 2007 report contained a chart of those transgressions; tax problems were listed under the heading “Unpaid Debts.” In that column, there was exactly one example in 2007.
He accepted refunds for taxes he didn't pay. Does no one see the irony of the TS as a tax-dodger?

Amazing the amount of spin, distortion and contortions from the lefties in defending a tax cheat - all because he's a dem and obama wants him on his team. Boot-lickers, one and all.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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He prepared his own taxes in 2001 and 2002 and is now kinda blaming Intuit tax software for the mistake.





He accepted refunds for taxes he didn't pay. Does no one see the irony of the TS as a tax-dodger?

Amazing the amount of spin, distortion and contortions from the lefties in defending a tax cheat - all because he's a dem and obama wants him on his team. Boot-lickers, one and all.

LOL---you talking about spin. Intuit tax software? He prepared his own taxes? He accepted refunds? Spin, baby, spin. Because none of these statements is a factual representation of the events.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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He prepared his own taxes in 2001 and 2002 and is now kinda blaming Intuit tax software for the mistake.
I know, you don't ask for proof from people that provide you with these talking points, but I'm different. Please provide evidence to your claim.

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Amazing the amount of spin, distortion and contortions from the lefties in defending a tax cheat - all because he's a dem and obama wants him on his team. Boot-lickers, one and all.
Obviously, you haven't been told that it was Obama's team that discovered unpaid taxes during the vetting process. That would be the 2001-2002 tax issue where he had a part of taxes unpaid (he did pay most of it then, thru his accountant). I don't expect you to be informed of the real picture by much of the MSM either. This he paid recently (obviously, after the discovery during the vetting process).

There was another tax issue, which IRS admits (in its documentation, published 2007) happens to more than half of people in similar situation. It is not that he had not paid taxes, he had not paid a part of his taxes, but took care of it in 2006.

Ever used an accountant for tax filing?
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