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Old 03-14-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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It absolutely is the point. A "torture administration" is one that runs on torture, thrives opon it, manages by torture, will torture anyone for any reason, just because they enjoy it.

Putting Bush next to Hussain, Hitler even.. thats just idiotic and shows how far wacky some individuals in this country are and does a disservice to teaching individuals about those rulers in history that actually did rule by torture.
"A Torture Administration" starts slowly. First torture is used to" protect the country from their enemies." Soon the definition of enemy becomes very broad eventually including citizens who disagree with the government. This is why torture and the entire thought process that justifies torture must never ever be allowed! Torture is not compatible with democracy!
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:32 PM
 
Location: 95468
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The Iraqi's would never waterboard our guys.
But they will remove their heads slowly with little knives.

Only after the last liberal fantasy has been cut down.
And the last neo-commie has been exposed .................

-- A Plea of the Sane Ones


Isha u Allah
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The Iraqi's would never waterboard our guys.
But they will remove their heads slowly with little knives.

Only after the last liberal fantasy has been cut down.
And the last neo-commie has been exposed .................

-- A Plea of the Sane Ones


Isha u Allah
When you fight evil with evil, evil wins!!!
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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Who put Bush next to Hitler or Saddam Hussein??? I sure didn't. But the fact that you try to defend him by bringing up those two speaks volumes.
The title of this thread is "torture administration", which means that he ruled by torture, naming other administrations that also managed by torture as a comparison is to be expected.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:52 PM
 
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You are right and I am well aware, but sometimes you think that maybe a glimmer will ignite in a dimwits head and they will see the light. Again, you are right and I'm outta here.
Am I to take "dimwit" as a personal attack? I thought that was a tos... Why no tos violation.. mmm
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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"A Torture Administration" starts slowly. First torture is used to" protect the country from their enemies." Soon the definition of enemy becomes very broad eventually including citizens who disagree with the government. This is why torture and the entire thought process that justifies torture must never ever be allowed! Torture is not compatible with democracy!
total bs unless you can bring up examples as to when "Bush" tourtured citizens that disagreed with him..
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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total bs unless you can bring up examples as to when "Bush" tourtured citizens that disagreed with him..

Look at the history of other countries where torture is used against its own citizens. Torture is first introduced as a necessary method to protect the country. Later, it is used against its own citizens. Again, after torture is accepted as a means of protecting a country from its enemies, the definition of an enemy can include citizens who disagree with the government.

If you want to understand the process further, read about how Hitler governed.


Bush introduced the first step towards a country that accepts torture as a means of government.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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Look at the history of other countries where torture is used against its own citizens. Torture is first introduced as a necessary method to protect the country. Later, it is used against its own citizens. Again, after torture is accepted as a means of protecting a country from its enemies, the definition of an enemy can include citizens who disagree with the government.

If you want to understand the process further, read about how Hitler governed.

Bush introduced the first step towards a country that accepts torture as a means of government.
You totally avoided the question, what US citizens did Bush torture? Now I'll add another question, what steps did Bush introduce? I've already posted where Clinton sent individuals to Egypt to be tortured so now tell me what Bush introduced..
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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Why did the Congress tell Bush to go for it?

Because they were presented fake evidence????
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Really? You mean all the investigation that the Congress did on their OWN was faked?
The evidence was collected and Congress given an opportunity to examine, which very few did. Much like the recent trillion Congress passed as payoffs to their supporters.

Congress needs to be replaced with a higher standard.
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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The evidence was collected and Congress given an opportunity to examine, which very few did. Much like the recent trillion Congress passed as payoffs to their supporters.

Congress needs to be replaced with a higher standard.

You think!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I personally believe the problem with America is Congress. It doesn't matter who runs around claiming to be the World King,(Bush or Obama) we all know it is and was Pelosi and Reid.
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