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Old 01-25-2009, 12:41 PM
 
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Back in the Fall I had a very similar discussion with BigJon3475, and I tried to educate him on the subject. Some people just can't comprehend science.
Ohh wow.... no obsession there....
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Back in the Fall I had a very similar discussion with BigJon3475, and I tried to educate him on the subject. Some people just can't comprehend science.

That's what happens when you debate with fundies and creationists: they eventually will expose their ignorance of science, and their default debating tactic is to spout inanities.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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Ohh wow.... no obsession there....
Just the facts...
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Why is the theory of evolution so controversial??

Because scientists use it as an excuse to get people to pay higher taxes. Well, I want a tax cut, Mr Wizard.



Maybe we should increase the tax on everybody with a degree in science.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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And I keep saying this: The burden of proof is on YOU to show us that your book is more than just a book of fables. Why do I have to go and prove to that your book isn't more than just a book? I already KNOW its nothing more than a book!! Got it?

Oh yeah, and I read that garbage about the bible and numbers you call "proof"...it reminds me of that trick where you take your age, add 210, multiple by your day of your birth, subtract 6 and you "magically" get the year you were born. Its just numbers games and hardly verifiable proof.
Wiggle and squirm, but the dates add up. If the Bible were a book of fables, the events would never occur, or if they did, the dates would be off by a country mile. But they do occur and the dates are spot on. Since we've all examined the same material, we all know that to be true.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:25 PM
 
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That is not my place to do so. I respect Christianity and Christians. However, it has nothing to do with the debate on evolution.

And before it gets brought up again:

Evolution makes no attempt to explain the origins of life. That is a science known as abiogenesis. And, the Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution. The Big Bang is astrology. Evolution is biology.

If we are here to debate the validity of evolution, keep it to evolution. Don't bring other sciences into it.

And where were you when either event took place? Speculate if you like, but I'll go with what I can prove.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:25 PM
 
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Wiggle and squirm, but the dates add up. If the Bible were a book of fables, the events would never occur, or if they did, the dates would be off by a country mile. But they do occur and the dates are spot on. Since we've all examined the same material, we all know that to be true.
...ever occur to you that the authors of those webpages intentionally doctored those numbers so they would make sense???

Coincidences are everywhere....if your God is so great and omnipotent, why would be resort to numbers games?

Back to evolution....
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Wiggle and squirm, but the dates add up. If the Bible were a book of fables, the events would never occur, or if they did, the dates would be off by a country mile. But they do occur and the dates are spot on. Since we've all examined the same material, we all know that to be true.
Who decided which books to include and which ones to leave out?

Are we getting a one-sided picture of what actually happened? Was vital information withheld?
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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Who decided which books to include and which ones to leave out?

Are we getting a one-sided picture of what actually happened? Was vital information withheld?
Good point. Catholics and Protestants can't even agree which books constitute the legitimate Bible.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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True, that's why I said tis a matter of faith. You have to first believe that the original authors were divinely inspired to write the bible. As I said, if you don't believe this simple fact, then the whole point is moot.

And the fact that future events are predicted hundreds and thousands of years into the future with the prophesies in print (KJV) hundreds of years before they come to pass, is incidental? Check your logic.
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