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Old 01-25-2009, 02:29 PM
 
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According to your graph, and if I'm understanding it correctly, 9% of funding was dedicated to human embryonic stem cell research...with significant stipulations. I'm failing to see your point.
you clearly aren't understanding it correctly, which explains your failure to see the point. the person i was addressing claimed that federal funding of stem cell research [note the utter and complete lack of the any qualifiers such as 'embryonic' in that sentence] - had been banned.

clearer now?
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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Sometimes the point of putting up a chart or graph is that, since most people either won't or won't be able to read it, it will look like one is really on top of a particular topic.
what part of the graphic are you having difficulty with, my friend?
i'm here to help.

you honestly think i put that chart up 3 times hoping people wouldn't look at it/ understand it?
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:44 PM
 
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you clearly aren't understanding it correctly, which explains your failure to see the point. the person i was addressing claimed that federal funding of stem cell research [note the utter and complete lack of the any qualifiers such as 'embryonic' in that sentence] - had been banned.

clearer now?
This would be relevant if the debate was about anything but human embryonic stem cell research. That is the debate, ya know. I didn't think it needed to be spelled out. Nobody gives a rats behind about stem cell research on rats, adult stem cells, umbilical cord stem cells, etc. Surely, you know this.
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:48 PM
 
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what part of the graphic are you having difficulty with, my friend?
i'm here to help.

you honestly think i put that chart up 3 times hoping people wouldn't look at it/ understand it?
You put it up without understanding what the issues are. Your graph is irrelevant to the actual debate. If you need 'human embryonic stem cell research" spelled out for you, than this probably isn't a topic of interest for you.
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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You liberals actually don't mind science growing sheep with two heads, cloning animals, and messing around with God's creatures? You know it is only a matter of time till you have a two headed clone! Think about it.
Seems you would have to start with one of “Gods Two headed creatures” in order to clone one. I’m sure scientists would be smart enough to leave one of God’s mistakes alone and only clone the best God has provided.
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:06 PM
 
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Seems you would have to start with one of “Gods Two headed creatures” in order to clone one. I’m sure scientists would be smart enough to leave one of God’s mistakes alone and only clone the best God has provided.
Yep, clone the Democrats!
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:26 PM
 
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what part of the graphic are you having difficulty with, my friend? i'm here to help.
I understand the chart perfectly, and I also understand perfectly the implication of the original exchange...

KevK
Thank God in one of his first official acts President Obama is going to end the bans on stem cell and other scientific research.

uggabugga
'bans'? what 'bans'

You knew full well what ban on stem cell research was being referred to. You knew quite well both that it existed and that it limited the work that US scientists could conduct. Your entire argument since has been based on this initial dishonesty. Help me understand how you excuse that...
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:01 AM
 
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I understand the chart perfectly, and I also understand perfectly the implication of the original exchange...

KevK
Thank God in one of his first official acts President Obama is going to end the bans on stem cell and other scientific research.

uggabugga
'bans'? what 'bans'

You knew full well what ban on stem cell research was being referred to.

false. kevk was obviously under the impression that a ban on stem cell research was in effect. this, of course, is ridiculously untrue.

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You knew quite well both that it existed and that it limited the work that US scientists could conduct.
there is no ban on stem cell research in the USA. embryonic or otherwise. therefore, i could not possibly know of this nonexistent ban; nor could you or mr. k.

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Your entire argument since has been based on this initial dishonesty.
that is correct - my entire argument has been based on the OP's initial dishonesty. finally you got one right.

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Help me understand how you excuse that.
i'm in no position to excuse kevk's dishonesty. you may want to take that up with him?
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:14 AM
 
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Über-lame...you shouldn't have bothered...
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:38 AM
 
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there is no ban on stem cell research in the USA. embryonic or otherwise. therefore, i could not possibly know of this nonexistent ban; nor could you or mr. k.
It's certainly a ban for our sci/tech agencies that take on the bulk of medical research (uni's, NIH, etc) when allocation of funding is thwarted/banned.
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