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Old 01-28-2009, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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To the OP:

You need to found your own church. The Church of the Redeemed Heathen Yankees. There is always a market in America for ridiculous superstition and oversimplification. Religion is a great racket in America.

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Old 01-28-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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To the OP:

You need to found your own church. The Church of the Redeemed Heathen Yankees. There is always a market in America for ridiculous superstition and oversimplification. Religion is great racket in America.
So true. This is nothing but a troll thread anyway, with someone regurgitating the nonsense from some phony baloney preacher.
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Mention of religion is fine. In fact, in my high school they had a program called 'meet at the pole', where once a week all the Christians would get together at a pole and pray together before school. Nobody gave a crap, to be honest, that they were praying. It was at school, in the courtyard across the street from our old City Hall building. Now, if it was MANDATORY that would be a problem.
We had the same thing at my school. West Michigan (where I live) is pretty conservative/christian, and it was even okay for teachers to join the students the praying (as long as they weren't leading). That's why I never get the "Public schools are anti-god" rhetoric. In my district, nor in any other district in the region did I EVER hear a story of students religious rights being violated.

I think the problem is that christians hear some story out of the blue from World Net Daily or Fox News about some teacher somewhere ranting against the faith, and then they get all worried and think their local public schools are hotbeds of atheism without researching it themselves. As a christian with a degree in teaching, it's a very irritating thing to deal with.

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For every quote such as that of Jefferson in the Treaty of Tripoli, you can find 2 quotes supporting our nation's Christian heritage. It's college professors today rewriting history to downplay the role of religion in the lives of early Americans
Chris, can you supply some of these quotes? And I'm not talking about Deist quotes, but explicitly christian quotes. I don't know of any, but I could be wrong. Other posters have supplied some to support their view, and it would be good of you to do the same.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Pardon me for asking this gentlemen, but is that, could that be, a right-wing, neocon, republican, christian conservative right family in that photograph? and if it is, I have just one other question, where's the daddy? OOOOOOOoops!
Just my take, but I see that poster as depicting a teacher and a pair of students at school. You know - America has gone to the dogs ever since the government took god out of our schools and all that business.


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sorry about that!
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you know me from my posts friend, mutz is not a whaka-whatever.
Roger that.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:50 PM
 
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One word - GREED. Dont care if the cheap suit wearing it is Re-snub or Dumbo-crat.
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Read the constitution not modern text books ..read their letters and books...read who published the first American published Bible read who started the first Sunday school "THe fool hath said in his heart there is no God" Ps 14
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Read the constitution not modern text books ..read their letters and books...read who published the first American published Bible read who started the first Sunday school "THe fool hath said in his heart there is no God" Ps 14
Also, read the treaty of Tripoli and Jefferson's letters. Read up on what many of the founding father's religion actually was. Also read up on their attitude towards organized religion.
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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This country that was founded on Christianity and was subsequently blessed has made God her sworn enemy. Here is a short list.

-Most people under 30 no longer believe in God
-we throw millions of innocent babies per year into a meat grinder - Hitler has nothing on that
-The sin of Sodom is promoted as a holy and righteous thing and traditional family values are frowned upon
-we teach our children that we are nothing more than animals here only by chance and wonder why they act like it
-churches are more interested in either money or conforming to our MTV culture than spreading the gospel of Christ
-God's remainig elect are scorned and mocked in this country
Not one of your statements is supportable by any credible source. Not even one.

Unless you can cite some credible references for your assertions, you will not be beleived. Besides, you live here. Do you REALLY want problems for all of America? Or are you fantisizing that America's problems will not affect you.
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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To the OP:

You need to found your own church. The Church of the Redeemed Heathen Yankees. There is always a market in America for ridiculous superstition and oversimplification. Religion is a great racket in America.

I love it!!! The Church of the Redeemed Heathen Yankees. --but can we leave the "redeemed" part out?
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Since 1935, 99% of Americans have enrolled in national socialism and bear the number, as well as engage in usury. Usury is mathematically impossible to pay in a finite money token system.

1. The outstanding obligations (that which is owed to creditors and account holders) is a far greater sum than the amount of circulating medium of exchange. (I do not call it money, for it does not comply with law).

2. Pursuant to law, the only way NEW "dollar bills" are legally emitted, is by increasing the debt. In short, unless Congress goes deeper into debt, the "funny munny" supply cannot increase.

3. One of the major factors in triggering the subprime mortgage collapse was that the speculation finally drove up real estate prices to the point where the insufficient m.o.e. was exposed. Suddenly, there were no more "investors" with ready cash (nor credit) to continue the cycle of buy low, sell high, flip fast and bye bye.

4. As more investors try to "cash out", the pressure to come up with "dollar bills" is enormous. (Check the Federal Reserve M1 tally for Dec 2008)

5. Congress borrowed MORE than it paid in interest, in 2007 and 2008. It is servicing the debt with new investor's unmoney. That's why Bernie Madoff was arrested.

6. Under current conditions, the finite supply of "cash" has no proportionality with the marketplace (sum of all goods and services available for sale). Therefore, a disconnect exists, of such magnitude that it imperils commerce worldwide.

On a strict constitutional law basis, there is no solution possible. WHY?
  • The 14th amendment states that the public debt cannot be questioned - even though it is insane.
  • The limitation to precious metal coin as lawful money is mathematically unsound. A subset of a set can never be a representative for a whole set.
  • Usury and usurers are not prohibited. Usury is mathematically impossible to pay in a finite money token system.

Possible solution:
Repeal 14th amendment, amend Art.1 Sec.8 and Sec. 10 to eliminate the exclusion of other mediums of exchange. Explicitly ban usury - or at the least - cease enforcing contracts for usury in a court of law.
Which would, in turn, abolish the public debt, for it is based on usury and impossible to pay. (All bonds and T-bills would be void and FRNs would cease to be legal tender)
Expand the power of the court to recognize contracts denominated in other than lawful money - such as private promissory notes, denominated in goods and services (ex: coupons). Once productive people and enterprises can emit notes denominated in what they can do or produce, the money token supply will be freed from the mathematical paradox that has plagued mankind for millennia.

And let us not forget abolishing national socialism, and canceling all entitlement programs. But since Socialist InSecurity is 100% voluntary, it would only need full disclosure about the facts of the program to encourage mass exodus.

P.S. Ezekiel 18:13 KJV denounces usury as an abomination and usurers shall surely die, their blood be on their own hands.

Just about all religions denounce usury. Even Aristotle condemned usury as the worst scam to rob mankind. Yet millions if not billions of "righteous" people embrace usury to their bosoms.

In 1836 John Whipple, an American lawyer, showed the impossibility of sustaining long term metallic usury:
" If 5 English pennies... had been... at 5 per cent compound interest from the beginning of the Christian era until the present time, it would amount in gold of standard fineness to 32,366,648,157 spheres of gold each eight thousand miles in diameter, or as large as the earth."
Did modern man suddenly get "so smart" as to forget that usury was an abomination and mathematically impossible to pay?

Why else would Jesus have whipped the usurers from the Temple?
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