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Old 01-31-2009, 10:27 PM
 
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Do you have anything to offer aside from empty sarcasm? Why are you all flogging this dead horse about Aisha?
I'm the ONLY one who has added any intelligent, factual information about Islam in this thread.

Muhammad was a pedophile. He was also a tribal warlord who basically happened to become one of the most powerful ones ever to live. He was not unlike a lot of other military conquerors. You would do well to honestly study the foundations of the religion - and not from an apologist point of view, but against the backdrop of all world religions.

You'll be VERY surprised.


...or, you can continue to defend pedophilia.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Evils commited by Christians & Muslims aside, Compare the Life of Jesus and the life of...
Muhammed..Jesus was pure and Muhammed was ehhhhhh
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:33 PM
 
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I'm the ONLY one who has added any intelligent, factual information about Islam in this thread.

Muhammad was a pedophile. He was also a tribal warlord who basically happened to become one of the most powerful ones ever to live. He was not unlike a lot of other military conquerors. You would do well to honestly study the foundations of the religion - and not from an apologist point of view, but against the backdrop of all world religions.

You'll be VERY surprised.

...or, you can continue to defend pedophilia.
I'm having doubts about your certification. But then again; it is your view. A shame about your narrow mind though...
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:38 PM
 
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I'm having doubts about your certification. But then again; it is your view. A shame about your narrow mind though...
Ahhh... So I suppose you're going to try to claim that Muhammad was a peaceful reformer - along the lines of MLK jr?

You must live in a very, very strange state of mind.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:39 PM
 
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Evils commited by Christians & Muslims aside, Compare the Life of Jesus and the life of...
Muhammed..Jesus was pure and Muhammed was ehhhhhh
Jesus a.s was pure and a prophet send down for the jews only as he himself said in the bible..He did not bring anything new; just carrying the torch passed down by his predecessor prophets Moses,David etc..

Muhamad s.a.w was pure too..the messenger foretold by Jesus in the bible. The prophet that will come from amongst the bethren of the jews and who are the bethren on the jews? the Arabs. Again...read up on the prophet Muhammad s.a.w before any productive dialogues can bloom
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:41 PM
 
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Jesus a.s was pure and a prophet send down for the jews only as he himself said in the bible..He did not bring anything new; just carrying the torch passed down by his predecessor prophets Moses,David etc..

Muhamad s.a.w was pure too..the messenger foretold by Jesus in the bible. The prophet that will come from amongst the bethren of the jews and who are the bethren on the jews? the Arabs. Again...read up on the prophet Muhammad s.a.w before any productive dialogues can bloom
So Jesus said Muhammad was coming?

Yet another interesting take on creative apologetics.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So what about the islamic terrorist in north Africa, Philippines, Bali, France, Spain, India, Russia, and England? Last time I checked, there were no jewish settlers in those places. In fact, in some of those countries, it is the muslims who are the settlers and invaders. Islam, religion of terrorism.
You're comparing apples to oranges to grapes to pomegranates.

In most of those situations, the Islamic terrorists should be fought and defeated. Although there are significant differences in the group you named. Russia can plausibly be said to be oppressing Chechnya. Most Americans, on the right and left, cheered when the 14 non-Russian states won independence from the USSR. Why Chechnya should be a different case is unclear. Spain and England were targeted because of their participation in the criminal U.S. invasion of Iraq. France has been hit by homegrown rioting, but not terrorism per se. India has been regarded as an enemy of Muslims since the 1947 partition, and because it continues to occupy Kashmir.

Sometimes Muslims have a good reason to fight, and sometimes they don't. Pretty much like every other religious group on the planet. But let's get one thing clear off the bat: just because people fighting in a certain cause are Muslims does not mean they are fighting because they are Muslims. Muslims have the same combination of good and bad motives, causes, jealousies and rivalries that any other group does.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:46 PM
 
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Ahhh... So I suppose you're going to try to claim that Muhammad was a peaceful reformer - along the lines of MLK jr?

You must live in a very, very strange state of mind.
Muhammad s.a.w was a reformer but he was not a total pacifist because a pacifist would not last but he only fought when commanded. There are lots of claims that Islam was spread by the sword; claims which even renowned historians agreed were incorrect. Just as an example : Islam spread fast amongst the people living in the peninsular and the northern african states because lots of the inhabitants were Christians who were Arianists and they were waiting for the arabian prophet foretold in the bible. When Muhammad s.a.w emerged, they knew they were seeing the prophecy fulfilled and had no issues with embracing Islam.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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So Jesus said Muhammad was coming?

Yet another interesting take on creative apologetics.
Don't take my word for it....read the bible
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I'm the ONLY one who has added any intelligent, factual information about Islam in this thread.
When Muhammad married his wife is not "factual information about Islam", it is biographical information about Muhammad. It has no more relevance to Islam than Lot screwing his daughters has to do with Judaism or Christianity.

This may come as a shock to your narrow little brain, but Muslims worship Allah, not Muhammad.

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Muhammad was a pedophile. He was also a tribal warlord who basically happened to become one of the most powerful ones ever to live. He was not unlike a lot of other military conquerors. You would do well to honestly study the foundations of the religion - and not from an apologist point of view, but against the backdrop of all world religions.
I'm an atheist, I don't give much of a damn about the foundations of any religion, except to the extent that they affect the world I live in right now. In some parts of the world, radical Islamism is a real threat. In this country, radical Islamophobia is a much greater danger, epecially when it makes it impossible to conduct a rationally self-interested foreign policy.
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