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Old 01-31-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Washington Times - Stimulus bills include STD prevention

Wouldn't helping people behind on their mortgages or student loan payments be a better use for $335 mil than treating canker sores?

Is this change we can believe in?
We have three other threads about this so why do you feel the need to make yet another one?
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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we would have less poor folks who can't afford health care running to free medical clinics for treatment. would we not? in turn, saving money. remember, you have to spend money, if you want to make money. what is the quote? an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?
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Washington Times - Stimulus bills include STD prevention

Wouldn't helping people behind on their mortgages or student loan payments be a better use for $335 mil than treating canker sores?

Is this change we can believe in?
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Default Science is 8 years behind!

For an additional amount for ‘Public Health and Social Services Emergency Fund’ to improve information technology security at the Department of Health and Human Services, $50,000,000: Provided, That the Secretary shall prepare and submit a report by not later than November 1, 2009, and by not later than 15 days after the end of each month thereafter, updating the status of actions taken and funds obligated in this and previous appropriations Acts for pandemic influenza preparedness and response activities, biomedical advanced research and development activities, Project BioShield, and Cyber Security.


For necessary expenses for a ‘Prevention and Wellness Fund’ to be administered through the Department of Health and Human Services Office of the Secretary, $3,000,000,000: Provided, That the provisions of section 1103 of this Act shall not apply to this appropriation: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading not less than $2,350,000,000 shall be transferred to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as follows:
  • (1) Not less than $954,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out the immunization program authorized by section 317(a), (j), and (k)(1) of the Public Health Service Act (‘section 317 immunization program’), of which $649,900,000 shall be available on October 1, 2009.
    (2) Not less than $296,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out Part A of title XIX of the Public Health Service Act, of which $148,000,000 shall be available on October 1, 2009.
    (3) Not less than $545,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out chronic disease, health promotion, and genomics programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services (‘Secretary’) and the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (‘Director’).
    (4) Not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director.
    (5) Not less than $60,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out environmental health programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director.
    (6) Not less than $50,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out injury prevention and control programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director.
    (7) Not less than $30,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for public health workforce development activities, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director.
    (8) Not less than $40,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health to carry out research activities within the National Occupational Research Agenda.
    (9) Not less than $40,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for the National Center for Health Statistics:
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:41 PM
 
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Washington Times - Stimulus bills include STD prevention

Wouldn't helping people behind on their mortgages or student loan payments be a better use for $335 mil than treating canker sores?

Is this change we can believe in?
The Washingtom Times is owned by The Reverend Sun Myung Moon.

That paper is a rag and all for the Neocons. Bush family and the demented reverend have very close ties by the way.
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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The Washingtom Times is owned by The Reverend Sun Myung Moon.

That paper is a rag and all for the Neocons. Bush family and the demented reverend have very close ties by the way.
Thats why I posted those sections so everyone here can actually read it for themselves.
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: California
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It's still a waste of money, it will do nothing to stop STDs it will do nothing to boost the economy except fund a few new goverment jobs which the tax payers will be payng for.
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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It's still a waste of money, it will do nothing to stop STDs it will do nothing to boost the economy except fund a few new goverment jobs which the tax payers will be payng for.
A working scientist contributes more than one thats unemployed!
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:29 PM
 
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A working scientist contributes more than one thats unemployed!
Too much science for them to handle. If it were up to some of these people, we would still have a polio epidemic. We have people aguing to have schools teach creationism. Yes, ass backwards is always the right way to go. I guess if the "Rapture" doesn't save their butts, they can build an arc and sail off into the sunset. Fables and fairytales are the stuff progress is made of.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:35 PM
 
Location: California
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Over two million jobs were lost in 2008, I doubt many were scientist, the stimulas package should be focused on employing the type of people who lost jobs not a select group of a few but the mass of unemployeed.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:37 PM
 
Location: California
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Too much science for them to handle. If it were up to some of these people, we would still have a polio epidemic. We have people aguing to have schools teach creationism. Yes, ass backwards is always the right way to go. I guess if the "Rapture" doesn't save their butts, they can build an arc and sail off into the sunset. Fables and fairytales are the stuff progress is made of.
The stimulas package is not about science if you have noticed it's about putting millions of people back to work, your post makes no sense in this subject.
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