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Old 02-02-2009, 04:44 PM
 
Location: MIA
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I mean Unions and African-Americans.

How was Obama perceived to be a better economy-fixer if it was known that he had to appease these two groups for getting him in office? If Union and African-American agendas are put at the top of Obama's "to do" list, the nation's economy will be in big trouble.

-Productivity will decrease

-Cost of living will increase

-Legislation by quota and race will take firm hold

-Global tariff wars will ensue (IF Obama and Biden follow through with raising tariffs on foreign steel)

-Going to the doctor will be like going to the DMV (With Obama's socialist med plan)

-More terrorist dirt will be swept under the rug for future presidents/generations to deal with - alla Clinton's gift to Bush in 2001

-$2 trillion dollar deficits will keep a ball and chain around the middle class for generations...

: smack:
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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"African American agenda"... Explain please.

Unions - he's talked forever about the card check and strengthening workers' ability to organize. He's not "appeasing" unions. He's protecting workers' jobs. And maybe something about assimilating the illegal immigrants.

Also, he has always said he would extend benefits to companies that keep x-% of their plants and offices in the US and hire American workers.

That said, I hope there'll be some major curbs put on the unions' rapacity. Just let us collectively bargain and keep our jobs.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: MIA
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"African American agenda"... Explain please.

Unions - he's talked forever about the card check and strengthening workers' ability to organize. He's not "appeasing" unions. He's protecting workers' jobs. And maybe something about assimilating the illegal immigrants.
The unions themselves are the problem. States with high union membership ie Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are rapidly bleeding jobs. Obama wants to treat the problem by throwing money at it rather than eradicating the unions and solving the problem forever.

What is the common denominator with the U.S. auto and steel industries with regard to their current struggles? U-N-I-O-N-S

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Also, he has always said he would extend benefits to companies that keep x-% of their plants and offices in the US and hire American workers.
See: "keep x-% of their plants and offices in the U.S. and hire American {{{UNION}}} workers.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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The unions themselves are the problem. States with high union membership ie Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are rapidly bleeding jobs. Obama wants to treat the problem by throwing money at it rather than eradicating the unions and solving the problem forever.

What is the common denominator with the U.S. auto and steel industries with regard to their current struggles? U-N-I-O-N-S
'Struth. Exhibit A:

Unraveling The UAW Job Bank | The Truth About Cars
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I mean Unions and African-Americans.
And, if I may ask, have you got a "solution" to this "problem?"
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: MIA
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And, if I may ask, have you got a "solution" to this "problem?"
Yea, Obama could wise up and start thinking like an economist instead of a union-bought community organizer~
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:11 PM
 
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The unions themselves are the problem. States with high union membership ie Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are rapidly bleeding jobs. Obama wants to treat the problem by throwing money at it rather than eradicating the unions and solving the problem forever.

What is the common denominator with the U.S. auto and steel industries with regard to their current struggles? U-N-I-O-N-S
I agree the unions have done their part to wreck the economy, no denying it. I hope, since he seems dead-set on strengthening workers' opportunity to organize, that he'll also do something w his Dept of Labor to rein in the bloodthirsty unions. It would be self-defeating not to wouldnt it be?

However Hilda Solis is extremely to the left IMO.

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See: "keep x-% of their plants and offices in the U.S. and hire American {{{UNION}}} workers.
Im sure not exclusively

The hysteria from the anti-union groups about card-check indicates to me that employees will go overwhelmingly in favor of organizing and protecting themselves if given the chance.

But I'd like to hear more about the African-American agenda! *gets comfortable*
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I mean Unions and African-Americans.

How was Obama perceived to be a better economy-fixer if it was known that he had to appease these two groups for getting him in office? If Union and African-American agendas are put at the top of Obama's "to do" list, the nation's economy will be in big trouble.

-Productivity will decrease

-Cost of living will increase

-Legislation by quota and race will take firm hold

-Global tariff wars will ensue (IF Obama and Biden follow through with raising tariffs on foreign steel)

-Going to the doctor will be like going to the DMV (With Obama's socialist med plan)

-More terrorist dirt will be swept under the rug for future presidents/generations to deal with - alla Clinton's gift to Bush in 2001

-$2 trillion dollar deficits will keep a ball and chain around the middle class for generations...

: smack:
Tell me if I got this right. You don't believe in the free market, so government should not allow people to join unions! Most true conservatives wouldn't want the government to restrict freedoms! They believe that market would handle it!
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:57 PM
 
Location: MIA
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Tell me if I got this right. You don't believe in the free market, so government should not allow people to join unions! Most true conservatives wouldn't want the government to restrict freedoms! They believe that market would handle it!
I believe in the free market 100%. If we can tough it out the next year or so without Congress having to pass a "stimulus bill", our recovery will be quicker and our next period of economic growth will be longer and more extensive.

Back to OP;
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yep nothin like chinese enslaved labor to make the bald eagle shine.
somewhere somehow we went from john wayne to marie antoinette
why is it when i see an anti union post i always wonder how many times
this parent has sent his adult kid to hawaii?
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