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Old 02-04-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The Bush administration's warrantless surveillance program is certain to come under Holder's scrutiny.
Is that the same one obama voted for? The same one the courts just recently said was perfectly legal?
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Old 02-04-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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Is that the same one obama voted for? The same one the courts just recently said was perfectly legal?
No it's not the same one the Obama voted for. And it's not the same one the courts ruled parts of were legal. It was the law in place before that....LOL

I swear you are factually wrong at least 50% of the time.....LOL
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Hello???

That law in place before the current one went through the courts, who then kicked it back to bush and congress, who then tweaked it AND THEN obama voted for it, right?

Why do you object so much to listening in on terrorist conversations?

Afraid we might catch them? And we have, you know. This program has been an invaluable tool in the War on Terror.

Did you object to the program when bubba started it?
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:27 AM
 
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Afraid we might catch them? And we have, you know. This program has been an invaluable tool in the War on Terror.
Ah yes, the "With-us-or-against-us" "War On Terror".... that's another bit of "Bush-Speak" that I'm so glad to see Obama is getting rid of!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/op...ml?ref=opinion
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Harrisonville
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Hello???

That law in place before the current one went through the courts, who then kicked it back to bush and congress, who then tweaked it AND THEN obama voted for it, right?

Why do you object so much to listening in on terrorist conversations?

Afraid we might catch them? And we have, you know. This program has been an invaluable tool in the War on Terror.

Did you object to the program when bubba started it?

Well actually none of this caught any terrorists. In fairness to them though, they have bagged a dozen or so Democratic politicians like Elliot Spitzer. What I find funny is at least an equal number of Republicans were brought up on charges for similar offenses in the same time frame without once needing to invoke the "Patriot Act".
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Face it, some people like the idea of applying torture in prison. Remember, torture is only bad if used by others, it's considered okay if America does it.
Some people also think that warrantless spying on citizens is a great idea and should be continued. These are probably the same people who wave flags, shout "God BLess America!", and "Hurray for Freedom!".
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:11 AM
 
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Well actually none of this caught any terrorists.
Incorrect. The wiretapping program has provided valuable intelligence that has lead to the capture/death of terrorists.

Why, of course, Spitzer was forced into engaging a prostitution ring, cheating on his wife, and using public funds to pay for his crimes.

Who else can you make excuses for? Do you realize the stupidity of your claim?
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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No it's not the same one the Obama voted for. And it's not the same one the courts ruled parts of were legal. It was the law in place before that....LOL

I swear you are factually wrong at least 50% of the time.....LOL
You are unbelievably generous...
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You are unbelievably generous...
Of course I happen to be 100% right in this case, which he has failed to dispute.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Harrisonville
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Incorrect. The wiretapping program has provided valuable intelligence that has lead to the capture/death of terrorists.

Why, of course, Spitzer was forced into engaging a prostitution ring, cheating on his wife, and using public funds to pay for his crimes.

Who else can you make excuses for? Do you realize the stupidity of your claim?

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The wiretapping program has provided valuable intelligence that has lead to the capture/death of terrorists
I've heard them say this many times, but when asked, they've never produced any. So why don't you name ten or twelve right now and prove that you're something other than a braying donkey.

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Why, of course, Spitzer was forced into engaging a prostitution ring, cheating on his wife, and using public funds to pay for his crimes.
And that's the terrorism that required suspending the Bill of Rights?

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Who else can you make excuses for?
Certainly not you, or Semi-ahmoo.

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Do you realize the stupidity of your claim?
No. Why don't you explain it to me? I need the benefit of your age and wisdom.
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