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Old 02-04-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Senate Democratic leaders conceded yesterday that they do not have the votes to pass the stimulus bill as currently written and said that to gain bipartisan support, they will seek to cut provisions that would not provide an immediate boost to the economy.
Why, sure they do. They have enough dems in the senate to pass the bill - however, they are looking for political cover.

As more and more details of this dem-pork bill get out, they realize just what a pickle they are in - and that's why pelosi and the house dems tried to rush this bill along, changing the rules as she goes.

Glenn Thrush's Blog: Cooper: Obama staff encouraged defiance of Pelosi - Politico.com

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"They know its a messy bill and they wanted a clean bill. Now, I got in terrible trouble with our leadership because they don’t care what’s in the bill, they just want it pass and they want it to be unanimous. They don’t mind the partisan fighting cause that’s what they are used to. In fact, they’re really good at it. And they’re a little bit worried about what a post-partisan future might look like. If members actually had to read the bills and figure out whether they are any good or not. We’re just told how to vote. We’re treated like mushrooms most of the time."
This is a democrat talking about his fellow dems.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:11 AM
 
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Why not change the stimulus package to make it all go to military spending? I propose we spend $15 trillion.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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From your link:

Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN) "suggest[ed] the White House quietly encouraged him to buck House leadership on the stimulus.

"Cooper was one of 11 Dems to vote no -- joining every GOP House member.

"'Well, I probably shouldn’t tell you this, but I actually got some quiet encouragement from the Obama folks for what I’m doing,' said Cooper, one of about 55 House Democrats to sign a letter criticizing Speaker Nancy Pelosi for suspending normal debate and committee rules on the $819 billion package.
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Cooper, an early supporter of Obama's, referred to the House leadership repeatedly as 'old bulls' and the president as 'Barack,' said House leaders had 'pinned' Obama down by jamming pork into the bill, and expressed hope the Senate would radically revise the package."

, if kind of tattle-taley.

Obama needs to whip these babyish fools into line.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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I like the idea of just collecting taxes for 3 months. That would stimulate the economy more than anything.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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I like the idea of just collecting taxes for 3 months. That would stimulate the economy more than anything.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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American Democrats are the bravest, most noble creatures in this universe!

We are blessed to be witness to their amazing talents and unsurpassed intellectual honesty...



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Old 02-04-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I think its funny how someone to lazy to read the bill calls it pork bill. I heard the items with issue are less than 1% of the bill.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:41 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I'm still confused about the $2.4 billion for "carbon capture demonstration"

Something that captures carbon from the atmosphere and removes it from the air....

DIDN'T THAT USED TO BE CALLED A TREE?

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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I honestly hope this thing doesn't pass.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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I'm still confused about the $2.4 billion for "carbon capture demonstration"

Something that captures carbon from the atmosphere and removes it from the air....

DIDN'T THAT USED TO BE CALLED A TREE?
How dare you question the workings of Liberal America!!

Don't you know they are soooooo very smart?

It's true!

It really is!

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