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View Poll Results: Do You Agree With Actor Val Kilmer About Most Vietnam Vets: "Most (Vietnam Vets) guys were bord
yes 18 16.51%
no 84 77.06%
other 1 0.92%
not sure 6 5.50%
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I do not agree, and if my father was alive, he would probably kick val kilmars teeth in for saying that.

I also work with quite a few vietnam vets and they make in excess of 60k a year.
But did they make 60K (or the equivalent) before going to Vietnam? I don't think Val Kilmer is saying they are still "poor misfits," just that it described the typical guy who enlisted... still pretty rude for him to say, though.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Wow, racists never dissapoint.
What does racism have to do with anything?
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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if he wants to say that some are that way then fine. but to classify a whole group of people when he does not know the 1st darn thing about it.

he has his say alright, but keep the classification out of it.
I get your point. I did make assumptions and I apologize if I was wrong.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:23 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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adding Val kilmer to my do not watch or add a penny to their income list and wow it is getting to be a long list!
No offense intended, but you just reminded me of my 92 year-old grandmother... she puts every actor on her "blacklist" who says anything offensive (in her opinion), so it's getting hard to find movies we can take her to. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with writing off an actor - lord knows I won't pay for a Mel Gibson movie anytime soon - but I try to reserve that for extreme & blatant cases. JMO.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Rocket City, U.S.A.
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I don't boycott actors for their opinions...and Val happens to be quite talented...but I will continue to ignore the political Hollywood.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:47 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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But did they make 60K (or the equivalent) before going to Vietnam? I don't think Val Kilmer is saying they are still "poor misfits," just that it described the typical guy who enlisted... still pretty rude for him to say, though.
most people going into the military never did make 60k+ before they went into the military.

I took his comments as to say that vietnam veterans already out of the military are poor misfits, and his comments were totally inappropiate.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I am so astonished on how conservatives always want to punish someone for executing their rights. Especially those of you that took the oath to protect those rights. You are the ones that protect it,except that even though you disagree with his points he is not being unpatriotic.
I am so astonished on how liberals always believe conservatives are not entitled to exercise their right to criticize or ignore others who execute their own rights in obnoxious fashion. That is, of course, unless it's a conservative whom they believe is exercising their rights in obnoxious fashion. Then all of a sudden it's "boycott Rush! Demand that Hannity be taken off the air!"

Hi there, Pot -- have you met Kettle yet? You two should get along marvelously.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:35 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I am so astonished on how liberals always believe conservatives are not entitled to exercise their right to criticize or ignore others who execute their own rights in obnoxious fashion. That is, of course, unless it's a conservative whom they believe is exercising their rights in obnoxious fashion. Then all of a sudden it's "boycott Rush! Demand that Hannity be taken off the air!"

Hi there, Pot -- have you met Kettle yet? You two should get along marvelously.
I have never advocated for either. I believe let them speak, they only show who they really are. Which both are bad for America as they are anti american. Why do you think Liberals are painting Rush as the leader of the republican party?
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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Oh that is sick! And what's worse is his views are probably held by most actors, directors, and writers in Hollywood.
Wow, a pot meet kettle post on the first reply... That must be some kind of record.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Cali
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I have a total of 6 relatives who served in Vietnam and none of them were or are borderline criminal. Kilmer is just another overpaid, no talent actor talking out of his ass!
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