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Old 02-05-2009, 01:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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You've probably seen this article already. But did you notice a few hints buried in the text? Emphasis mine.

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Obama caps executive pay tied to bailout money - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-caps-executive-pay-tied-apf-14258147.html - broken link)

Obama caps executive pay tied to bailout money

Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer
Wednesday February 4, 2009, 8:19 pm EST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Assailing out-of-touch corporate pay and perks, President Barack Obama on Wednesday slammed a salary cap on top executives from companies that want bailouts

(snip)

Obama's new plan is broad.

Beyond imposing tighter rules on companies that get emergency bailouts, it also requires more openness and limits for healthy banks that tap into public money to expand lending. And it envisions broad reforms in how employees are paid at any public financial institution, even ones that don't get Federal help.

(snip)

The administration also will propose long-term compensation ideas even for companies that don't receive government assistance, Obama said. Among the ideas will be requiring top executives at financial institutions to hold stock for several years before they can cash out.
Well, that's awfully nice of Mr. Obama. He will "propose ideas" to these banks on how they should run their business and pay their people. As if they hadn't had those ideas before he showed up - and rejected them three seconds after they were brought up.

We should keep something in mind here. Governments don't "propose ideas". They make laws, and restrictions, and regulations. And they impose penalties on people who don't obey, as a means of forcing them to do what they wouldn't have done by their own choice.

That's ANY government does, or can do. It is not capable of anything else.

And that's fine for criminals, murderers, people who have been convicted of fraud, etc. Government should do exactly that, to them.

But here we have the President of the United States proposing that government intrude on people who have broken no laws, done no harm, and in fact have run their businesses well, benefitted many people, and provided loads of jobs.

When Mr. Obama says he will "propose ideas" to banks and other businesses that did NOT take bailout money, you can expect the banks to read the hidden message loud and clear: If you don't take our "suggestions", we will eventually start imposing them on you by force, so you'd better listen now.

Did anyone believe the people now in power, don't intend to take over more and more American business and tell them how to run things?

It's change you can believe in.

:lol: Suckers...........
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Well, socialists, how do you respond to this? This kind of an article is most likely music to your ears.
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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The key word is public ie... government owned. That has nothing to do with the private sector.
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by lamexican View Post
The key word is public ie... government owned. That has nothing to do with the private sector.
"Public" means stockholder-owned, not government-owned.

Nice try.

(where on earth do you get such tripe?)
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What do you bet that he won't support caps on lawsuits???
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Obama has been in office less than three weeks, and he's already claiming the power for government to decide how much pay private-sector employees get.

Will this be a one-time-only thing? Will he relinquish this power as soon as the bailed-out companies get back on their feet?

Or is this the beginning of a trend?
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Wake me up when we have the details, then there will be something to discuss.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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I think the goal is probably to shrink the gap between top executive compensation and lowest-paid worker pay - something like 400% now, the highest in the world. Many CEOs arent as dedicated to their companies (and their shareholders) as they are to the game, so that leads to abuse. It's probably about that... and I'll watch with interest to see how on earth this could come about. Possibly by strengthening the Shareholders Vote on Exec. Compensation Act... and bonuses and other perk-type compensation more strictly tied to the company's returns that year... golden parachutes tied to performance..."Among the ideas will be requiring top executives at financial institutions to hold stock for several years before they can cash out."

I dont know, should be interesting.

One problem with trying to control the reason for living of people who live for money is there is a BIG payback-style backlash later, once the reformers are gone. So meddling this way wouldnt be in the country's best interests in the long run - it'd be back to removing all restrictions, all regulation.

Last edited by delusianne; 02-05-2009 at 03:03 PM.. Reason: added quote and parachute thing
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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You mean you haven't heard about Article II., Section 5. of the US Constitution? It was thought to be a lost document, but it was recently found in a vault. It states:

The President shall have power over all commerce, and all entities involved in commerce, to determine just compensation for all parties.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Well one has to wonder what rules will be imposed into everybodies lives such as healthcare,if the government will provide you care maybe they will force to live a certain lifestyle because they are providing you the service?
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