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Old 02-06-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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I see, so you're of the mindset of "let's just ignore it & do nothing". Typical.
So you re saying that the sky is falling and we need to support the stimulus package?
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Since Obama is the Messiah, I guess he has foreseen the future!
He doesn't need to be a Messiah to foresee problems ahead. He just needs to keep his head out of the sand (where Bush kept his) and not deny that there is a problem.

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Old 02-06-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Especially considering this quote of his from his inaugural address:

"We have chosen hope over fear."

To now:

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe."

As long as he's not threatening to declare martial law if it's not passed (something that Dubya was going to do if the package in Sept was not passed).
That one only helped out the banks and did nothing for the common man. The banks used it to give out bonuses and take vacations and buy other banks, not forgive or work with loans that were in a forclosure process.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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So you re saying that the sky is falling and we need to support the stimulus package?
I don't know, did I say that? Something needs to be done, at least he's getting off his ass & doing something about it rather than relaxing back in his chair & pawning it off on others.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:14 PM
 
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I don't know, did I say that? Something needs to be done, at least he's getting off his ass & doing something about it rather than relaxing back in his chair & pawning it off on others.
I don't recall any stimulus money in the last recessions, why start now?
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Especially considering this quote of his from his inaugural address:

"We have chosen hope over fear."

To now:

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe."
Because he lacks his predecesor's skill in the art of subtle persuasion?

I'll admit I'm biased, I like Obama. But there is a difference between fear-mongering and interating the urgency of a situation. And few people can claim that he is wrong in that quote.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:54 PM
 
Location: here
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I see, so you're of the mindset of "let's just ignore it & do nothing". Typical.
yes, and then they'd complain that Obama did nothing.
I don't need Obama to instill fear in me. My friends and neighbors losing their jobs is enough for me.
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:07 PM
 
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I don't know, did I say that? Something needs to be done, at least he's getting off his ass & doing something about it rather than relaxing back in his chair & pawning it off on others.
Well, just a reminder that he is the one that got on the phone for the last bailout to gather support for it. And the same tactic was applied---people were told that if it didn't pass, disaster would come, blah blah blah. Hell, noody knows where that money went....so how did the first bailout help the economy?And why is obama again instilling fear about passing this second stimulus plan?

“Here are the facts: For two weeks I was on the phone everyday with [Treasury] Secretary [Henry] Paulson and the congressional leaders making sure that the principles that have been ultimately adopted were incorporated in the bill,” Obama said.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/0...-bailout-deal/
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:09 PM
 
Location: #
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Especially considering this quote of his from his inaugural address:

"We have chosen hope over fear."

To now:

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe."
I think you are confusing fear with plain old honesty.
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Old 02-06-2009, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes +
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Right on, crb. Reagan said homeless people didn't exist. Would you want Obama saying that? As crb says, honesty is needed and it should be scary so that the government will do the right thing by helping create jobs for the many hurting families.
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