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I don't think they would rather remain blissful and ignorant...it is that they support a government managed health system anyway.
I believe almost everyone arguing that the bill making it mandatory for all Americans medical records to be in a database isn't a bad idea also do not think it a bad idea for the government to run our healthcare systems anyway.
How exactly is this going to create jobs anyway???
If anything it would cause the loss of jobs in hospitals and doctors offices around the country,there would no longer need to be so many office workers in these businesses.
Can you show my ignorant self where in the bill it is stated that we will have mandatory Universal Health Care?
Can you also show my ignorant head in the sand self where in the bill it is stated that the Medical Records Database will be mandatory?
It's in there....people better call their congresmen and senators and tell them, "GET THIS OUT OF THIS BILL NOW".
People, this is not a good thing. Why do you think they are sneaking it in? Obama gets up and says " oh let's modernize health care records" and everyone bobs their heads.....
If this was so good then they would have openly been discussing it.
Get ready to be told what treatment you can get, what tests you can have, what medication you can have. You get angry when you get the generic pills instead of the name brand at the pharmacy, well, how will you feel when you are denied an EKG because you are only allowed to have 1 per year? Or you can't have an MRI because the gov't 's recommedations says an Xray is good enough.
Wait til you aren't allowed to be life flighted because the gov't feels it is not necessary.
If they want to control welfare people, let them. But now they are stepping into the private sector and telling us what we can and cannot have done.
Settle down ... I've never seen the republitards in such a whirling dirvish state in my life ... and then you have this crud polluting the airwaves:
This is what we have to look forward to.
This is so the government can have access to all of your medical records easily. You tell me the government having a system run by the government with your healthcare. Let's say, oh, gee, it looks like you have leprosy. "I don't have leprosy." It's in the system you have leprosy. Well, I can't take it out of the system. It's in the system. How do I get it out of the system? Oh, it's easy. You just have to file this paperwork.
Can you imagine? What happens if something goes in your medical file that shouldn't be in your medical file? How do you get it out of there? You want the government having all of your medical records on one central database that they control? I don't
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From Page 155 of the bill:
Health information technology architecture that will support the nationwide electronic exchange and use of health information in a secure, private, and accurate manner, including connecting health information exchanges, and which may include updating and implementing the infrastructure necessary within different agencies of the Department of Health and Human Services to support the electronic use and exchange of health information. (2) Integration of health information technology, including electronic medical records, into the initial and ongoing training of health professionals and others in the healthcare industry who would be instrumental to improving the quality of healthcare through the smooth and accurate electronic use and exchange of health information as determined by the Secretary
What they don't say is exactly what health information exchanges and exactly what the secretary can determine.
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From page 414
A nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and accurate exchange of health information. ‘‘(iii) The utilization of a certified electronic health record for each person in the United States by 2014. ‘‘(iv) Technologies that as a part of a qualified electronic health record allow for an accounting of disclosures made by a covered entity (as defined for purposes of regulations promulgated under section 264(c) of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996) for purposes of treatment, payment, and health care operations.
Yes, everyone is to be involved with no option to opt out as far as I've been able to read.
Can you show my ignorant self where in the bill it is stated that we will have mandatory Universal Health Care?
The position of "National Coordinator Of Health Information Technology"
SEC. 3001. OFFICE OF THE NATIONAL COORDINATOR FOR HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:5:./temp/%7Ec111CUVM1w:e294390: - broken link)
`(a) Establishment- There is established within the Department of Health and Human Services an Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (referred to in this section as the `Office'). The Office shall be headed by a National Coordinator who shall be appointed by the Secretary and shall report directly to the Secretary.
`(b) Purpose- The National Coordinator shall perform the duties under subsection (c) in a manner consistent with the development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and exchange of information and that--
`(1) ensures that each patient's health information is secure and protected, in accordance with applicable law;
`(2) improves health care quality, reduces medical errors, and advances the delivery of patient-centered medical care;
`(3) reduces health care costs resulting from inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information;
`(4) provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care;
`(5) ensures the inclusion of meaningful public input in such development of such infrastructure;
`(6) improves the coordination of care and information among hospitals, laboratories, physician offices, and other entities through an effective infrastructure for the secure and authorized exchange of health care information;
`(7) improves public health activities and facilitates the early identification and rapid response to public health threats and emergencies, including bioterror events and infectious disease outbreaks;
`(8) facilitates health and clinical research and health care quality;
`(9) promotes early detection, prevention, and management of chronic diseases;
`(10) promotes a more effective marketplace, greater competition, greater systems analysis, increased consumer choice, and improved outcomes in health care services; and
`(11) improves efforts to reduce health disparities.
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Can you also show my ignorant head in the sand self where in the bill it is stated that the Medical Records Database will be mandatory?
Here you go...
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454…The utilization of a certified electronic health record for each person in the United States by 2014.
This will be your ENTIRE medical records too...mental health,abortions,drug rehab....
Should make it easier to smear a person if an 'anonymous leak' of your records is released...
The position of "National Coordinator Of Health Information Technology"
SEC. 3001. OFFICE OF THE NATIONAL COORDINATOR FOR HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:5:./temp/%7Ec111CUVM1w:e294390: - broken link)
`(a) Establishment- There is established within the Department of Health and Human Services an Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (referred to in this section as the `Office'). The Office shall be headed by a National Coordinator who shall be appointed by the Secretary and shall report directly to the Secretary.
`(b) Purpose- The National Coordinator shall perform the duties under subsection (c) in a manner consistent with the development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and exchange of information and that--
`(1) ensures that each patient's health information is secure and protected, in accordance with applicable law;
`(2) improves health care quality, reduces medical errors, and advances the delivery of patient-centered medical care;
`(3) reduces health care costs resulting from inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information;
`(4) provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care;
`(5) ensures the inclusion of meaningful public input in such development of such infrastructure;
`(6) improves the coordination of care and information among hospitals, laboratories, physician offices, and other entities through an effective infrastructure for the secure and authorized exchange of health care information;
`(7) improves public health activities and facilitates the early identification and rapid response to public health threats and emergencies, including bioterror events and infectious disease outbreaks;
`(8) facilitates health and clinical research and health care quality;
`(9) promotes early detection, prevention, and management of chronic diseases;
`(10) promotes a more effective marketplace, greater competition, greater systems analysis, increased consumer choice, and improved outcomes in health care services; and
`(11) improves efforts to reduce health disparities.
Here you go...
Does not say that it's mandatory - just that their goal is to have everyone participate.
Does not say that any recommendations on treatment or patient care will be mandatory.
Does not state ANYTHING regarding Government control of health decisions.
Again, where this "hidden" "Universal Health Care"?
‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided under section
13 13112 of the Health Information Technology for Eco14
nomic and Clinical Health Act, any standard or implemen15
tation specification adopted under section 3004 shall be
16 voluntary with respect to private entities.
17 ‘‘(b) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this sub18
title shall be construed to require that a private entity that
19 enters into a contract with the Federal Government apply
20 or use the standards and implementation specifications
21 adopted under section 3004 with respect to activities not
22 related to the contract.
‘‘(d) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this sec23
tion shall be construed to require that a private or govern24
ment entity adopt or use the technology provided under
25 this section.
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I'll take it directly from your link. On your link, it's page # 464.
‘‘Sec. 3006. Voluntary application and use of adopted standards and implementation
specifications by private entities.
Page 466
1 ‘‘(d) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this sec
2 tion shall be construed to require that a private or govern
3 ment entity adopt or use the technology provided under
4 this section.
‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided under section
13 13112 of the Health Information Technology for Eco14
nomic and Clinical Health Act, any standard or implemen15
tation specification adopted under section 3004 shall be
16 voluntary with respect to private entities.
17 ‘‘(b) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this sub18
title shall be construed to require that a private entity that
19 enters into a contract with the Federal Government apply
20 or use the standards and implementation specifications
21 adopted under section 3004 with respect to activities not
22 related to the contract.
‘‘(d) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this sec23
tion shall be construed to require that a private or govern24
ment entity adopt or use the technology provided under
25 this section.
XXXPAGEENDXXX
What part of for each person in the United States by 2014 is not clear to you?
As for it being voluntary for "private entities", nowhere does it describe exactly what that is and historically it does NOT mean you and I it usually means a private company not a singular person.
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