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Old 02-11-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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when Richardson said that we were told he was wrong by the Obama camp that it was 250k
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s

From Obamas own web site
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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This is a new low for you. Of course he said everyone making under $250K will get a tax cut - it is all over the news, in videos, in the debates, in clip after clip - that is what he said.

Obama's promised tax cuts - The Boston Globe

How soon we so conveniently, selectively forget his promises. And it's only been three weeks!
Oh really? Did you read the link where he says, what he said throughout the election that "NO ONE MAKING UNDER $250K WILL HAVE THEIR TAXES RAISED.

Even in the link you provide he says that, along with the fact that MOST (95%) people under 250k will see a tax break - which is true!

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"It's going to be a tax reduction on most people making under $250,000 a year," he said. "People making more than $250,000 a year will obviously see an increase in their taxes."
This was explained during his infomercial last year as well. He never promised that everyone under $250k would see a cut, just that the majority would, and you would not see an increase if you were under $250k. I followed this pretty closely, as my HHI is close.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Oh, newtoli - you are really spinning now.

OffTheBus Listening Post: Obama Camp Promises Tax Cuts for Families Earning Under $250,000 - Obama Campaign Press Call 8.14.08 AUDIO

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Obama Camp Promises Tax Cuts for Families Earning Under $250,000 - Obama Campaign
Remember newtoli; He started out saying tax cuts for family's under $250k, then $200K, the good old Joe Biden mentioned $150K

Remember the furor over this sliding scale of his?

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=21622

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The campaign's homepage, for example, accessed today, reads, "Obama said he wanted to give a tax break to all families making under $250,000 per year, which he said was 95 percent of American workers."

Yet in the "Defining Moment" ad released on YouTube last week and viewable below, Obama says the tax cut "for 95 percent of working Americans" is only for those who make less than $200,000 per year.

According to the 2006 IRS statistics published by the National Taxpayers Union, "95 percent of working Americans" only includes those making less than $153,542 per year.

And now, Fox News reports Biden told a Scranton, Pa., TV station yesterday that Obama's tax break "should go to middle class people – people making under $150,000 a year."
You know what they say about lies - it's hard to keep them straight.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:59 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Oh, newtoli - you are really spinning now.

OffTheBus Listening Post: Obama Camp Promises Tax Cuts for Families Earning Under $250,000 - Obama Campaign Press Call 8.14.08 AUDIO


Remember newtoli; He started out saying tax cuts for family's under $250k, then $200K, the good old Joe Biden mentioned $150K

Remember the furor over this sliding scale of his?

250K? 200K? 150K? Who are the rich Obama? - Democracy Forums

You know what they say about lies - it's hard to keep them straight.
From your first link... Did you even read it? You just read the headline, didn't you? It was always at Families - $250k, individuals, 200k.

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Obama campaign Economy Policy Director Jason Furman and Senior Advisor Austan Goolsbee outlined Barack Obama's tax plan, supplementing a co-written op-ed in the Wall Street Journal which lists Obama's tax proposals. At the forefront of the tax plan was a promise to not raise taxes on any individual making under $200,000 or families making $250,000. They also committed to cutting taxes for most people making less than those amounts. Furman said that while the plan was a net tax cut at a time when the national debt is almost $500 billion, Obama would cut spending by ending the war in Iraq and paying for things as they go, as well as cutting other wasteful programs and spurring economic growth.
Worldnetdaily article on a forum? Show me a real article stating that Obama was to give tax CUTS to everyone under $250k.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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He's a politician, so it comes with the territory.
Obama can't get the pass for "just being a politician" when he staked his entire campaign on "change". Obama said he would bring change, said he was transparent, said he was a Washington outsider and not the same kind of politician we were used to. Obama made big promises and set himself up to a higher standard. Therefore, no "just being a politician" pass for him.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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YouTube - Barack Obama on the Economy in Powder Springs, GA

How about from your messiah's own mouth?

Please don't try and deny that he started at 250K, then 200K, then 150K, then 120K
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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Just because it hasn't happened YET does not mean it won't. That does not make it a lie, it means he can't do EVERYTHING he promised in the first 3 weeks.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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having a hard time keeping track of Obamas lies.
Anyone who has passed the 4th grade can see that Obama has not lied since he got into office.

Not being able to discern between a lie and the truth seems to be the real dilemma for some people.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

click on this link.
Click on "no action"
look for #37 on the list of promises he has not taken action on YET.
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