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Old 02-14-2009, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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It appears to me that the real Obama is starting to show. His stimulus package will be a failure in my opinion. It has been tried before and guess what? It did not work! Giving citizens an extra $50 dollars/month will not resolve the problem. I am assuming most Americans will use this extra money to pay bills and/or spend it at Wal Mart(which by the way is doing GREAT! and does not need any help!). I never heard that an economy can be "fixed" through more government spending. Hard to understand the way these Liberals think. Anyways, I will continue to find every and any possible legal way I can to reduce my tax bill and I don't understand how some of these Liberals do not seem to care about giving more and more of their hard earned money to the nanny state. I am afraid, we are headed in the wrong direction!!
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:51 PM
 
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Well, giving tax cuts--which the Republicans want--won't do the job, either. Look what happened with the bailout money from the first go-round: those CEOS sure didn't invest in cleaning up their act with that, did they? Giving tax cuts to the wealthy results in neither more jobs nor more investment in America. Never has, never will. The big players of capitalism are all too greedy and corrupt. They would rather give themselves raises and buy airplanes.

The truth is, nobody knows what to do. Nobody knows what will work. Even Paul Krugman--who thinks the stimulus bill isn't big enough--doesn't really know what should be done. The economic crisis we are in is unprecedented. Obama's doing his best. And doing it with the best economic advisors available. Do you know someone who could do better?
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:11 PM
 
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It appears to me that the real Obama is starting to show. His stimulus package will be a failure in my opinion. It has been tried before and guess what? It did not work! Giving citizens an extra $50 dollars/month will not resolve the problem. I am assuming most Americans will use this extra money to pay bills and/or spend it at Wal Mart(which by the way is doing GREAT! and does not need any help!). I never heard that an economy can be "fixed" through more government spending. Hard to understand the way these Liberals think. Anyways, I will continue to find every and any possible legal way I can to reduce my tax bill and I don't understand how some of these Liberals do not seem to care about giving more and more of their hard earned money to the nanny state. I am afraid, we are headed in the wrong direction!!
1) Real Obama is starting to show? He is now just 3 weeks in office but you were already bushing him 2 months even before he took office!!!
2) Giving citizens back their money is the conservative/ republican prescription for economic crises! It was the conservative mantra all the time and now its not good?
3) You never heard that an economy can be fixed through government spending? I never heard of an economy that can be fixed by letting the private sector do it. I don't know how this plan will work, but I am 100% certain that the private sector alone is not going to initiate any recovery. Businesses care for their bacon only. They may jump on the wagon once they see it moving, but they will never start it by themselves. In the past, the economy took off following a war (government spending) or when gold and oil were found, when territories were added to the union, or when recovering after a natural disaster (government spending). Sometimes a new invention can shake the world, like the automobile or airplane inventions. Otherwise, the private sector doesn't move a finger.
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:26 AM
 
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Why don't you try waiting and seeing how it turns out, since you can't change it anyway... rather than claiming "it doesn't work" and basing that on your idea that you think it won't work.
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:37 AM
 
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It appears to me that the real Obama is starting to show. His stimulus package will be a failure in my opinion. It has been tried before and guess what? It did not work! Giving citizens an extra $50 dollars/month will not resolve the problem. I am assuming most Americans will use this extra money to pay bills and/or spend it at Wal Mart(which by the way is doing GREAT! and does not need any help!). I never heard that an economy can be "fixed" through more government spending. Hard to understand the way these Liberals think. Anyways, I will continue to find every and any possible legal way I can to reduce my tax bill and I don't understand how some of these Liberals do not seem to care about giving more and more of their hard earned money to the nanny state. I am afraid, we are headed in the wrong direction!!

Oh, sumptin' 'bout Maynard Keynes saying that occasionally a gov't can spend an economy back to working right and that "a little bit of inflation can be a good thing" or some such.
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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Yea, first of all if your going to bash Obama over something that has'nt happened yet why don't you tell us how to fix this. The truth is he will help, but he is only one man. We have to change our way of thinking, which will take something MAJOR.
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Old 02-15-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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It appears to me that the real Obama is starting to show. His stimulus package will be a failure in my opinion. It has been tried before and guess what? It did not work! Giving citizens an extra $50 dollars/month will not resolve the problem. I am assuming most Americans will use this extra money to pay bills and/or spend it at Wal Mart(which by the way is doing GREAT! and does not need any help!). I never heard that an economy can be "fixed" through more government spending. Hard to understand the way these Liberals think. Anyways, I will continue to find every and any possible legal way I can to reduce my tax bill and I don't understand how some of these Liberals do not seem to care about giving more and more of their hard earned money to the nanny state. I am afraid, we are headed in the wrong direction!!

Or else Obama does get it and is pleased to see Wall Street collapsing. I believe it's exactly his goal to destroy all private enterprise, that's why they don't care with each plan they push through that Wall Street does a nose dive. They want it to crash. They mean to have the government take over everything.
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Old 02-15-2009, 02:19 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Or else Obama does get it and is pleased to see Wall Street collapsing. I believe it's exactly his goal to destroy all private enterprise, that's why they don't care with each plan they push through that Wall Street does a nose dive. They want it to crash. They mean to have the government take over everything.
Maybe to get the North American Union in perhaps?
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Old 02-15-2009, 02:39 PM
 
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It appears to me that the real Obama is starting to show. His stimulus package will be a failure in my opinion. It has been tried before and guess what? It did not work! Giving citizens an extra $50 dollars/month will not resolve the problem. I am assuming most Americans will use this extra money to pay bills and/or spend it at Wal Mart(which by the way is doing GREAT! and does not need any help!). I never heard that an economy can be "fixed" through more government spending. Hard to understand the way these Liberals think. Anyways, I will continue to find every and any possible legal way I can to reduce my tax bill and I don't understand how some of these Liberals do not seem to care about giving more and more of their hard earned money to the nanny state. I am afraid, we are headed in the wrong direction!!
you are 0-2 in putting down obama as you know by know republicans had no itentions on helping the economy, they are just trying to set themselves up for the future and every democrat isnt a liberal so why dont you just say democrat.

explain what these tax cuts gonna do? help wealthy get more wealthy?
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Old 02-15-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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It appears to me that the real Obama is starting to show. His stimulus package will be a failure in my opinion. It has been tried before and guess what? It did not work! Giving citizens an extra $50 dollars/month will not resolve the problem. I am assuming most Americans will use this extra money to pay bills and/or spend it at Wal Mart(which by the way is doing GREAT! and does not need any help!). I never heard that an economy can be "fixed" through more government spending. Hard to understand the way these Liberals think. Anyways, I will continue to find every and any possible legal way I can to reduce my tax bill and I don't understand how some of these Liberals do not seem to care about giving more and more of their hard earned money to the nanny state. I am afraid, we are headed in the wrong direction!!
But you practically answered your own questions right there in the second sentence. "...in my opinion." Therefore, in your opinion President Obama doesn't get it. Yet you made a universal statement and appointed yourself judge and jury. Suppose President Obama does get it, and you're the one who's off base?
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