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Old 02-16-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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Typical.........no shame whatsoever.

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 02/13/2009 | GOP lawmakers tout projects in the stimulus bill they opposed
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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This is called 'politics'. Every politician ever in office has done something like this. If you can't change something, make the most of the situation.

Are you honestly saying democrats haven't done the exact same kind of thing?
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:12 PM
 
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This is called 'politics'. Every politician ever in office has done something like this. If you can't change something, make the most of the situation.

Are you honestly saying democrats haven't done the exact same kind of thing?

Such as what in the last eight years? Give me an example of a Dem voting against a bill....then bragging about the bill's contents? .
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Such as what in the last eight years? Give me an example of a Dem voting against a bill....then bragging about the bill's contents? .
I'd be glad to. How about something Obama said?

From an Obama spoksman: "To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."

link here

And the voting for HR.6304

Guess which way Obama voted...one hint - it wasn't against the bill.

Granted it is not an identical situation, but the point is exactly the same. Politicians change their mind all the time to make the most of a situation on behalf of their constituants.

If you want more examples I will be more than happy to give them. Please note, I am not a hardcore conservative (I am pretty middle ground, did not vote for Bush or Obama), but it really bothers me when democrats or republicans bash the other party then stick their heads in the sand to avoid seeing the hyprocracy of their statements.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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Yes basically you've found an example of a politician doing a thing he said he wouldn't.

Who in their right mind would say that politicians don't do that? Of course Dems are not perfect. Obama doesn't brag about his latest FISA vote...in fact he tries not to talk about it.

But nothing on the scale of this. 100% of GOP House members voted against a seriously important bill. And now they are going around bragging about the goodies in it.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Winnetka, IL & Rolling Hills, CA
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Most people are against the stimulus package in its current state. I think everyone knows, even liberals, that it will do little to nothing to help fix the economy. In fact the CBO says it will be a drag on our economy by 2010.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Most people are against the stimulus package in its current state. I think everyone knows, even liberals, that it will do little to nothing to help fix the economy. In fact the CBO says it will be a drag on our economy by 2010.

Wow! Three for three...three sentences..three lies.

1) Most people are against the stimulus package in its current state.

Wrong. CNN, Gallup, Pew, CBS all show it has majority appoval.

Poll finds Obama more popular than his stimulus package - CNN.com

2) I think everyone knows, even liberals, that it will do little to nothing to help fix the economy.


Uh huh...sure More Jobs Created in House Stimulus Bill, Say Economists - The Inside Job (usnews.com)

3) In fact the CBO says it will be a drag on our economy by 2010

No the CBO says the stimulus will begin to help by 2010...nothing about it being a drag until 2010

CBO: Majority of Stimulus Money Would Enter Economy by End of 2010 - US News and World Report
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Yes basically you've found an example of a politician doing a thing he said he wouldn't.

Who in their right mind would say that politicians don't do that? Of course Dems are not perfect. Obama doesn't brag about his latest FISA vote...in fact he tries not to talk about it.

But nothing on the scale of this. 100% of GOP House members voted against a seriously important bill. And now they are going around bragging about the goodies in it.
You are right, but my point is there are shameless politicians of every political leaning. Bashing one side or the other does nothing to help the problem. Pointing fingers and saying 'he is worse than we are' is behavior that should not be a part of national leadership. Threads like this which serve no useful purpose other than elevating your ego for bashing a party you think is wrong should be deleted immediately. Do I respect Rep. Mica? Not at all. I also think it is absolutely absurd to say his actions mirror all republican sentiment. That makes as much sense as saying you are a thief because a co-worker stole a computer monitor from work, and to me this thread just seems like you are grasping for any excuse to bash the republican party instead of addressing the actions of one particular individual.
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