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Old 06-30-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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My interpretation of this woman's words is that she was/is expecting the tax relief (NOT THE BAILOUT) that Obama promised in ALL of his campaign speeches and debates would alleviate her financial stress.

When you get some extra money, you can use it to pay for stuff. And when you can pay for stuff, the stress that arises from having to pay for stuff decreases. I would hope we can at least agree on that point.

It's odd that you tried so hard to discredit that interpretation, and now for some reason you're bringing up bailouts.
What's odd is that you interpret her words at face value while interjecting your own presumptions about "tax relief." She clearly expects Obama to mitigate her "gas" and "mortgage" worries. When will you see past the words and understand that an entire segment of the electorate truly believes that Obama is here to give them something? See my earlier post. There is an entire forum dedicated to "Obama's Free Healthcare Plan". Yes, I said FREE. Look it up. My point? The driving mentality is entitlement. Just because you interpret her words at face value does not mean that she is not representative of the entitlement crowd that put this guy into office. She is the perfect example, from my perspective.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:45 PM
 
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If someone loses her job through no fault of her own, the mortgage doesn't go away.
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So funny.

This is what happens when one must resort to falsehoods in maintaining a worldview. What's it called? Denial? Rationalization?

I'm not a liberal, but if having a working mind makes me liberal, so be it.

Your post is completely irrelevant. Dodge. Twist. Lie. Lie some more.

"I'm not gonna let 'em catch me, no
I'm not gonna let 'em catch
the midnight liar..."
Me dodging? I do beleive it is you that did NOT answer the question.

Now, answer the question shall we? So if a person loses their job through bad luck, its now the government's responsiblity to pay her mortgage?

At least give it your best shot. I can't wait to hear the latest and greatest from the entitlement crowd. This ought to be interesting.

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Old 06-30-2009, 02:50 PM
 
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She clearly expects Obama to mitigate her "gas" and "mortgage" worries.
Mitigating worries is a far cry from paying someone's bills. Ya think?
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:51 PM
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When will you see past the words and understand that an entire segment of the electorate truly believes that Obama is here to give them something?

I'm the one making that argument.

Something = a tax break.

To recap:

Obama campaigned on the pledge to reduce taxes for most taxpayers.

Therefore, most Obama supporters hoped/expected to get more money in their pocket either as part of their tax return or in their paycheck.

You don't seem to understand the concept of money or taxes.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Mitigating worries is a far cry from paying someone's bills. Ya think?
And just how does Obama or any president mitigate a citizen's worries over paying their bills?
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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I'm the one making that argument.

Something = a tax break.

To recap:

Obama campaigned on the pledge to reduce taxes for most taxpayers.

Therefore, most Obama supporters hoped/expected to get more money in their pocket either as part of their tax return or in their paycheck.

You don't seem to understand the concept of money or taxes.
Shallow. That's the only word I can come up with to describe your rationale. This is a MENTALITY people! Not just words at face value! Why is that so hard to understand?! This lady is expecting something from her President and it's this very entitlement crowd that got the man elected! You're living in one of the many farcial corners of liberal utopia if you don't believe that this mentality is rampant. The writing is on the wall everywhere. People believe that Obama is here to save them. But don't trust me. Look it up for yourself. I already gave you hint. Do your homework!
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:54 PM
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And just how does Obama or any president mitigate a citizen's worries over paying their bills?
By giving them more of their own money in the form of a tax cut. I assume you're aware that one of the things money can be used for is paying bills.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:55 PM
JPD
 
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Shallow. That's the only word I can come up with to describe your rationale. This is a MENTALITY people! Not just words at face value! Why is that so hard to understand?!
So now facts = shallow?

You are so deep.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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So now facts = shallow?

You are so deep.
You presume "tax relief" is what this lady is referring to and now you're claiming this as "fact?" You have absolutely no basis for your "facts". You can only presume, and I think you know that. That's the farce that liberalism has become.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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And just how does Obama or any president mitigate a citizen's worries over paying their bills?
Gee, I don't know. Why don't we ask all the Reagan worshippers why they thought he might mitigate their worries over the Carter recession? Wadda ya think? Good idea, no?
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Shallow. That's the only word I can come up with to describe your rationale. This is a MENTALITY people! Not just words at face value! Why is that so hard to understand?! This lady is expecting something from her President and it's this very entitlement crowd that got the man elected! You're living in one of the many farcial corners of liberal utopia if you don't believe that this mentality is rampant. The writing is on the wall everywhere. People believe that Obama is here to save them. But don't trust me. Look it up for yourself. I already gave you hint. Do your homework!
WHAT? We can't take people's words at face value? We're not allowed to expect anything from our elected officials, like a better functioning government, like tax relief, like infrastructure? Dude, I think you need to take a break, you're not making any sense!
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