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We were the aggressors in that war. Alot of Americans fought there and they paid a heavy price. Many died there or brought their problems (and their injuries) back to the U.S. with them. Many died young after their return home, and many went homeless as well. As heavy a cost as paid by these men (and sometimes women) the price paid by the citizens of Vietnam was even higher.
To forgive would be the right thing to do, as Jane Fonda really did nothing but exercise her right to free speech, and all this talk about how its "treason" is silly, it was North Vietnamese propaganda, not treason.
The real tragedy is the ghosts of Vietnam were ignored by men who invaded Iraq while working to avoid serving in Vietnam
The Wall Street Journal (August 3, 1995) published an interview with Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded "It was essential to our strategy" referring to the war being fought on two fronts, the Vietnam battlefield and back home in America through the antiwar movement on college campuses and in the city streets. He further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the American evening news broadcasts "to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement."
The irony here is, if you wanted universal commitment like the North Vietnamese had amongst themselves, you would desire the communist system we were sent to destroy, because it would not allow dissent or freedom of speech.
When someone resists an aggressor like the North Vietnamese did, you do so with your heart and soul in the fight. How well did the ARVN soldiers fight? Were their hearts in the fight? How well did the 250,000 strong Afghan army under the Soviet fight the Mujhadeen? And how well is that Iraqi army coming along?
We were the aggressors in that war. Alot of Americans fought there and they paid a heavy price. Many died there or brought their problems (and their injuries) back to the U.S. with them. Many died young after their return home, and many went homeless as well. As heavy a cost as paid by these men (and sometimes women) the price paid by the citizens of Vietnam was even higher.
To forgive would be the right thing to do, as Jane Fonda really did nothing but exercise her right to free speech, and all this talk about how its "treason" is silly, it was North Vietnamese propaganda, not treason.
The real tragedy is the ghosts of Vietnam were ignored by men who invaded Iraq while working to avoid serving in Vietnam
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"" The real tragedy is the ghosts of Vietnam were ignored by men who invaded Iraq while working to avoid serving in Vietnam""""
We were the aggressors in that war. Alot of Americans fought there and they paid a heavy price. Many died there or brought their problems (and their injuries) back to the U.S. with them. Many died young after their return home, and many went homeless as well. As heavy a cost as paid by these men (and sometimes women) the price paid by the citizens of Vietnam was even higher.
To forgive would be the right thing to do, as Jane Fonda really did nothing but exercise her right to free speech, and all this talk about how its "treason" is silly, it was North Vietnamese propaganda, not treason.
The real tragedy is the ghosts of Vietnam were ignored by men who invaded Iraq while working to avoid serving in Vietnam
Yes, treason. She took notes that the U.S. soldiers gave her and turned them over to the enemy which caused even more torture and killings on those they captured! If not treason, what the he** do you call it? The Draft was in effect back then and these guys had no choice to go and fight or flee to Canada. What would you have done??
Yes, treason. She took notes that the U.S. soldiers gave her and turned them over to the enemy which caused even more torture and killings on those they captured! If not treason, what the he** do you call it? The Draft was in effect back then and these guys had no choice to go and fight or flee to Canada. What would you have done??
[LEFT]Jane Fonda began her participation in anti-war activities around 1967, allegedly after meeting with Communists while in France and with American citizens who were revolutionaries. Her activities included active participation in demonstrations, rallies, radio broadcasts and plays. Jane Fonda also helped in the organization of a production group called the F.T.A. (F*** The Army). This group helped to set up coffee houses near military bases where they would perform anti-war derogatory-type sketches for the visiting soldiers. The coffee-house sketches were intended to counterpoint the U.S.O. shows, such as Bob Hope and other U.S.O. sponsored performers whose performances increased morale and gave positive support to American soldiers. Some of the F.T.A. coffee house employees would mingle with the soldiers to help them to "relax and unwind", while encouraging the soldiers to desert. Some soldiers alleged that they were promised jobs and money by the F.T.A. if they deserted. In 1972 Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden and others traveled to North Vietnam to give their support to the North Vietnamese's Government. When she returned to the United States, she advised the news media that all of the American Prisoners of War were being well treated and were not being tortured. As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with groups such as Jane Fonda's. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars." The Wall Street Journal (August 3, 1995) published an interview with Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded "It was essential to our strategy" referring to the war being fought on two fronts, the Vietnam battlefield and back home in America through the antiwar movement on college campuses and in the city streets. He further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the American evening news broadcasts "to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement." [/LEFT]
Obviously you were not in the conflict with that negative statement. All the American souls that were KIA during this conflict were there due to our government.
And their own gullibility and/or lack of moral fiber.
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