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View Poll Results: Should Vietnam vets forgive Jane Fonda?
Yes 30 23.62%
No 88 69.29%
Other 6 4.72%
Not Sure 3 2.36%
Voters: 127. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2009, 08:28 AM
 
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Jane Fonda is a fine example of how American justice works. She is an American traitor that is living a life of luxury in the country she betrayed. She should have been prosecuted and sentenced to death by firing squad.
However, because of who she is and the money in her family she is allowed to go free.
All Americans, and it seems there are fewer and fewer of them in America these days, should boycott anything connected with Jane Fonda.
She was a rebellious, misguided b*tch.

She had issues with her daddy.

I don't know where her head is now.

I hate Communism, but I wouldn't think of trespassing on evil.

What is it about "No Trespassing" that our politicians don't understand?

What is it about "No Trespassing" that military persons don't understand?

Wait till Obama's Army comes for you.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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You don't even begin to make sense....YOU are the one who came up with urban legend....I'm not calling any of the soldiers liears.
Yes you are, because they said it never happened.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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Your "fine example" is one of how the National Socialists operated from 1933 to 1945. I believe those sentenced to firing squad were charged as being "defeatists".

Alot of brave Americans fought in Germany so that it wouldnt happen here. And if you knew your history, and who Smedley Butler is, you might know how close it crept in. And anyone who has lived through the past 8 years in this country recognized its return under the neocons.
And to be clear - it ain't coming from the Middle East.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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So you would recommend forfiting your lifestyle and becoming a criminal (it was against the law to refuse the draft) rather than paying back with service what you have enjoyed all your life?
Paying back what to whom?

Massacring Indochinese people had nothing to do with maintaining any American soldier's "lifestyle".

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Additionally, Canada did not really want these Americans. After all, what benefit would they be to Canada when they would not even defend their own country?
Only an American could be insane enough to call what went on in Vietnam "defense." I guess the Germans were "defending their country" in Poland as well.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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Alls ya gotta do is read the link which I done gave it twice in this-here thread. I didnt write it.

And it's even handed - snopes covers the Jane issue (generally) and is even-handed - doesnt excuse her.

The point Im trying to make for you is that the thing you believe - about the notes - is not true.

And switch to decaf
Ah, your links are possibly urban legend. I don't drink coffee.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Ah, your links are possibly urban legend. I don't drink coffee.
You prefer Kool Aid.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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Yes you are, because they said it never happened.
Why thank you for presuming to know what I mean.....as one other poster stated: Wait until Obama's army comes for you; the Vietnam war will look very mild.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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Dear Jane Fonda

If only she would answer.
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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Ah, your links are possibly urban legend. I don't drink coffee.
In other words, you believe what suits you, facts be damned. In that same vein, do tell us about Obama's army!
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:16 AM
 
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Should Vietnam vets forgive Jane Fonda?

Vietnam vets protest Jane Fonda's Broadway showing
Vietnam vets protest Jane Fonda's Broadway showing (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090221/ap_en_ce/people_jane_fonda_1 - broken link)

NEW YORK – It's been decades, but Jane Fonda still can't shake her "Hanoi Jane" image from the Vietnam War.

About a dozen Vietnam veterans and other protesters on Saturday picketed the theater where the 71-year-old actress is starring in the Broadway play "33 Variations," telling passers-by that she had once visited their Viet Cong enemy in Hanoi.
Considering she did a prime time interview in depth apology 20(?) odd years ago, candidly admitting that she was young and foolish and deeply regretted her actions, the statute of limitations alone makes it moot.

Same folks who want to harp on her words aren't blaming the half of america that wrongfully blamed them for war when it was the leadership that directed them to be there. They'll look the other way when elected officials wrongfully send soldiers into someone else's civil war? Thrice??!!! Celebrity figures ought to be more accountable than elected officials/ commander in chief???

I guess once you've got a claim to fame being a victim it becomes a handy identity to lean on for the rest of your life. What a waste. Those aren't the soldiers and sailors I know, and they diminish the respect they deserve by their own actions. I'll put my back up against the wall for rehab, focus on transition back into civilian life, demand my elected officials properly fund restoring them as much as humanly possible, make sure their stories get a platform, but I'll be damned if I feed VFW drunks wallowing in pity parties in perpetuity.

More productive use of their energy would be spent educating america to ensure our present tense troops never take the political abuse in the streets that they endured returning home from vietnam. Ignorance ran rampant in civilian youth, it was wrong, and that history should never be repeated.

How has the era been portrayed in childrens textbooks? I have no grade school kids to check.
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