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Old 02-22-2009, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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As new technologies emerge, do you feel we should be allowed to create new species and hybrids? Should those species, once "conceived" be the property and/or responsibility of the businesses that created them? Should non-human animals have rights or should they be considered property? Should a person or couple of means be permitted to create super children (i.e. children whose genetic potential in some area would be so great that they'd have decisive advantages over others)?
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:10 PM
 
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As new technologies emerge, do you feel we should be allowed to create new species and hybrids? Should those species, once "conceived" be the property and/or responsibility of the businesses that created them? Should non-human animals have rights or should they be considered property? Should a person or couple of means be permitted to create super children (i.e. children whose genetic potential in some area would be so great that they'd have decisive advantages over others)?

We already create hybrids. Perhaps our most prominent invention in this department is corn. Corn isn't a naturally occurring plant. The ancient Mexicans created it by crossing (hybridizing) wild grasses (teosinte). The Story of Corn | Secrets of Plant Genomes: Revealed!

Should we patent species we created? Should children be considered their parents' property? I don't think you can patent a species any more than a parent can claim his child to be his property.

Parents already attempt to create "super children" through genetic and environmental manipulation. Through our choices of mates, we hope to produce offspring that we deem to be genetically endowed (males prefer nubile young females who can bear healthy offspring, while females prefer strong smart males who are perceived to be good providers to their offspring). Parents hope that their kids will inherit these genes that give a survival advantage. That's genetic manipulation.

Environmental manipulation occurs when we send our kids to the best schools in the hope that they will learn useful survival skills. Attending good schools also enables our kids to be socialized into circles that we hope will hook them up into networks that will later provide advantages in career building.

Genetic and evironmental manipulation already happen. People don't need anyone's permission for this to occur.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Thanks for your reply. I should have clarified earlier that I referring to animal hybrids. Do you, for example, think we should be allowed to create minotaurs or dogs like the one in The Fly II or giant, sentient spiders? In other words, at what point does it become immoral? Or does it?

If I'm not mistaken, pets are considered property in most places. Should an intelligent minotaur be considered a piece of property (e.g. a pet) or an individual?

I agree with that you're saying. I'm just trying to figure out where it leads us.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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Thanks for your reply. I should have clarified earlier that I referring to animal hybrids. Do you, for example, think we should be allowed to create minotaurs or dogs like the one in The Fly II or giant, sentient spiders? In other words, at what point does it become immoral? Or does it?

If I'm not mistaken, pets are considered property in most places. Should an intelligent minotaur be considered a piece of property (e.g. a pet) or an individual?

I agree with that you're saying. I'm just trying to figure out where it leads us.
If we can create animal hybrids that turn out to be smarter than us, then we may end up being their pets - their property. The relationship between the owner and the owned is a question of power relations. Who has the most power in this relationship? The party with the most power will determine who is labeled the owner and who is the property. So your question can't be answered until you actually create this intelligent minotaur and have him demonstrate his intelligence by subduing us.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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If you create something that can outsmart us then what is the piont in creating them in the first place? If something you creat becomes mentally unstable then you are the only one to blame. But if you keep the creation inside a safe environment then you should be able to study the mental capabilities of the creation along with if it is dangerous or not.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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All I have ever wanted to do is give people the choice to be who and what they want to be. This is my gaol, my dream. If someone wants to have wings then I say let them have wings (for the right price of course). If you want to be smarter then you can be, if you want to jump higher then you can. I mean literally anything can be available for the mass population.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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I want the first horsopotamus, giraffahound, walruscat, crowsnake, and cowparrot.
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Default yah

I was talking about people.
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:22 PM
 
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I should have clarified earlier that I referring to animal hybrids. Do you, for example, think we should be allowed to create minotaurs or dogs like the one in The Fly II or giant, sentient spiders? In other words, at what point does it become immoral? Or does it?
All of human history is filled with the development of animal species bred specifically for man's use. Why would genetic advancements change that equation. Of course if we embarked upon the development of sentient species, some form of lower humanoid then issues of property and morality will have to be weighed.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: PA
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Morality is not in question it is the level of control.
When mankind believes it has control of life and death I think we know what will happen.
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